Why are social commentary episodes always so cringe?

Why are social commentary episodes always so cringe?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they usually remind chudcels they are on the wrong side of history or some shit. Is that the response you wanted?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually yeah thank you for being a good faith position reader anon, hope you have a wonderful and blessing day.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i have Cinemaphile so much, bros

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate it as well. We acted like morons for too long and now the real morons have taken over.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hah, we moronic to close to the sun

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i appreciate you understanding what i actually tried to say and ignoring my flub

          also, i'd argue that's not the case
          yes Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile in general had a lot of tourists that came about as a result of a misguided understanding of what this website is, and for the longest time it was an image that we projected, but in recent years that image was completely unrelated to us
          the most recent bout of tourism, the 2020 covid tourism, brought in a buncha normies who think, or want this website to be, like every other social media website
          seriously observe the normalgay language, all the "yikes schizo, tell me __ without telling me ____, touch grass, my brother in christ this is a denny's" yadda yadda, observe how often people get angry at even the notion of a 'normie' (the first sign that outsiders are taking over a community is the attempt to dismantle words that seperate the outsiders from the community), notice the way they try and de-anonymize everyone by digging thru the archive like it's someone's reddit posting history and comparing reaction images
          these are the worst types of people in my opinion
          because i'm used to Cinemaphile and it's insanity, i can handle idiots, i can handle sex weirdos, i can handle annoying buttholes, i can handle atists
          but what i cant put up with is the shit that is the normie world flowing in here like a sewer
          i cannot handle skinwalkers

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but I would suggest being more sincere. Basically, you have to call out morons for being morons and be honest when you write stuff. If irony and post irony have poisoned the internet, it must be washed out. Do as one pleases; if homies be too irony poisoned or whateverpilled or what have you to read legitimate opinions, frick 'em and write what you actually think anyway.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i agree, be honest, it'll free your soul, and if someone wishes to drag you down with them don't bother with them, let them drop

              you are wise anon

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That’s why I’m absolutely deadpan when I see those irony poisoned morons.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tl;dr
            I've been here 18 years and you talk like a gay

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i wonder but how long do touristgays have to be here to get promoted? i really dont like the thought of normies leaking in

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm with you there homie. At this point i treat every ragebaiting shitposter as a /b/ era troll that's just trying to collect (you)s while knowing what a homosexual they sound like but le Cinemaphile trolls do this so they have to.

            NTA but I would suggest being more sincere. Basically, you have to call out morons for being morons and be honest when you write stuff. If irony and post irony have poisoned the internet, it must be washed out. Do as one pleases; if homies be too irony poisoned or whateverpilled or what have you to read legitimate opinions, frick 'em and write what you actually think anyway.

            In a post ironic culture, genuine sincerity is the new irony. But we definitely need more of it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >notice the way they try and de-anonymize everyone by digging thru the archive like it's someone's reddit posting history and comparing reaction images
            Shit that never happened for $500

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              please use the board before you speak

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No he's right. You'll see it a lot especially on the Cinemaphile derived boards.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It’s does happen but it only happens to people that are schizophrenic morons that constantly spam the same shit daily (ie Barnygay) and make a general nuisance of themselves.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it’s gotten really bad on certain boards. Even niche boards like /m/ got hit pretty hard.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              My fellow /m/an. I wish it was not like this.
              I am sorry it's like this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All because some rich girl committed suicide.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              QRD?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cinemaphile is just Reddit but you can say Black person or homosexual

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >acted

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        9/10 times OP posts are bait. The first post is the kind of response the rage farmers cream themselves over.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As a rule of thumb, if Op makes any political or sociopolitical statement, approach the thread under the assumption that it's the opposite
          Leftist statement? OP is rightwing and is baiting
          Rightwing statement? OP is leftist and is baiting
          Always assume that and operate under that belief and you'll be alright

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Most incels here don't realize they're just a vocal minority and they hate that.

        Can you spell "projection"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is it projection? How many social commentary episodes depict chuds as the ones correct and regular people as being wrong so they can be upset and project it onto others?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because you are transgender

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hunny
              you are a drag queen

              I accept your concession

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Projection

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Most incels here don't realize they're just a vocal minority and they hate that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      History is a fickle b***h

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lobotomies, eugenics, genocide, and sterilization were all on the "right" side of history. In fact some of these things have been rebranded to still be on the "right" side of history.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because execgays and censors are too moronic to let them EXPLICITLY say what the episode is about.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not just that; it's that people keep trying to force their personal politics on their audience, who more often than not DO NOT FRICKING CARE what mental damage the creators have - especially when the target audience is kids. They then wonder why their dumb show doesn't last, and people talk smack about them and their preachy episodes, when all the audience wanted was the show they originally signed up for.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I care, get over it pissbaby

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they are not nuanced. You need to have depths in characters - both good and bad.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    depends how is done.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9 out of 10 of them are written by sheltered Californian liberals who are extremely out of touch with the rest of society and even reality

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CARTOON WRITERS are given a week or two to reduce complex social issues to something appropriate to the target demographic and that fits in with the tone of the rest of the series. They just aren't good enough and don't have enough time to develop the idea.

    Here's an article about a particularly poorly-received Captain Planet episode about the Troubles in Northern Ireland. The writers had no time to make it good.

    https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/tv/tracked-down-writer-captain-planet-19071854

    >"Unfortunately, on a weekly TV schedule, I had precious little time to do research, and none for travel. I had read that in Belfast, there was an economic dimension to the conflict that I tried to bring out. But I didn’t know anyone from Ulster who could guide me on the dialogue and the tone."

    >"On Captain Planet, I had 13 scripts to deliver in 13 weeks. Every Monday, I had to get at least one premise approved, plus submit a first-draft outline, a first-draft script, a second-draft script, and a final (polished) script that went to the actors to record.

    >"Week in, week out, I had to hit all those production dates. There was no real time for research, though I had read a lot of news stories about each of the conflicts, and the issues behind them."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not relevant to modern cartoons that dont even have writers or real directors, just storyboarders coming up witth stuff off the top of their head. Skeleton Gun wasnt a script rushed in a week, its an idea in a hat that they stewed on for months.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Old cartoon writers weren't great to begin with, but modern boarders are worse. They're art students, not English majors, and have no or minimal training on how to handle the subjects. Given time, the writers could've made something better - but the boarders couldn't, even with months of lead time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It really shows how fricking worthless they see these shows as to let them be run that way. Even when its a cartoon for the teen and up demographic they consider it such low slop they would rather give artists more burdens instead of paying writers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      didn't they turn that Northern Ireland stuff into west side story?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like regardless of your position on the sociopolitical clusterfrick, Skeleton Remotes are the worst allegory I've ever seen

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah the Unicorn-trans one from PPG 2016 was way worse

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How could it be worse? Let's Not Be Skeletons fails at it's premise for contextually and metatextually. It's a double whammy of failure.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So does that unicorn episode and if anything it makes itself look like an ANTI trans episode

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except it wasn't meant to be an allegory, according to the writers when questioned. It was just a stupid episode about an annoying magical horse; brain damaged internet types were the ones that claimed it was meant to be one.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, they were serious.

          >In addition to shattering old tropes and kick-punching dated ideas, the new “Powerpuff Girls” will also address issues of gender and identity. One upcoming episode in particular touches on ideas of gender identity -- a topic open to conversation even in animated shows, thanks to programs such as “Steven Universe,” which explores gender fluidity and rejects established gender norms.

          >“We did an episode where there’s a unicorn. Basically when it starts out, he’s a pony, but he wants to be a unicorn,” Jennings explained. “He has to go through a transformation to become a unicorn and so it’s a whole [episode that asks], ‘What are you on the inside? What are you on the outside? How do you identify yourself? How do people see you?’ There’s a lot of subtext in that.”

          >And while the showrunners are mindful of their target demographic, they don’t believe in shying away from more complicated themes, with a proper approach.

          >“I don’t think you can be too young to start talking about those issues and thinking about those things and just presenting an attitude,” said Jennings, “and a voice that is going to resonate with people.”

          https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-powerpuff-girls-20160401-story.html

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, well I stand corrected and they were just liars, then. I hate modern writers so much.
            >captcha: SJWM8

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The furgay episode is worse

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1- the problem does not make sense in the context of the world.
    2- many times it is contradictory.
    3- at the end of the episode the problem is simplified so that the protagonist does not look like an idiot.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that locking your child out of your home is okay.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what was the episode picrel about? I watched all of ok k.o. and barely remember a politcal episode

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Basically a gun control episode but the "gun" doesn't kill people it makes them into skeletons.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ah alright, they're probably cringe because serious issues are usually dumbed down due to their intended child audience which makes them cringe, they're not gonna show a black dude getting a knee in his neck on teen titans go (i hate that show) but instead show people hating cyborg for being part robot or something, also because most modern media age terribly as theyre set in the modern age and intended to be viewed in the modern age

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gun control episode, as

      Basically a gun control episode but the "gun" doesn't kill people it makes them into skeletons.

      says
      In a show where the MCs work as a literal convenience store that's shown selling weapons like bags of chips. In a show where every third person can shoot lasers out of their taint. In a show where literal walking talking skeleton people are already an established thing lmao

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love OK KO, but even I can't defend this episode.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this one is worse than any older bullshit PSA or 'vewwy vewwy special episode' because everyone involved in this one was probably a True Believer(tm) of the messaging and instead of the tiniest hint of compromise they turn characters expressing reasonable beliefs into strawmen because they believe anything their opponent says is blasphemy to be ridiculed

      it's a really sour stain on the show since I remember Parker being really absurd about it on social media when it aired. I want to like KO but episodes like this make it hard to enjoy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I want to like KO but episodes like this make it hard to enjoy
        Agree, the crossover episodes were bad too.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you guys are criticizing a childrens show theres no fricking way OMEGALUL, this show is for fricking children and you guys are critiquing it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you realize that you are in Cinemaphile and that you came in to say that nonsense?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i came here to see softcore porn of pacifica northwest and wendy corduroy dumbass how did you not know that, but something about this thread enrages me that i had to call you morons dumbasses

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you realize you came to watch softcore porn from a children's show?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the characters arent real so its okay and its not actual porn its softcore, just a lil tease dumbass

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon ffs it's bait please read the rest of the thread

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gotta love the irony of a world where magic kung fu and deadly robots are commonplace but a heckin' NotGun is treated as the most serious thing in the world

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jjk gif
      youre underage AND a shitskin lul

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >youre underage AND a shitskin
        but I'm not a fan of this show

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The funniest thing is that skeleton people are a real specie in that universe so the episode accidentally delivered a racist message as well
      >You don't want to live the rest of your life like a worthless Skelton don't you?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the episode accidentally delivered a racist message as well.
        They had a point there, nobody wants to be a black man.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because cartoons aren't real life. That might seem obvious, but every cartoon has to work within their fictional world rather than our real one. So when you try to push our real world into the cartoon one, you put everything out of balance.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not all social commentary episodes are bad hunny.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hunny
      you are a drag queen

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The troon fear the old rad fem.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agree, most episodes of Captain Planet are hilarious.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are social commentary episodes always so cringe?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That one's so bad it's funny. Trying to use the gag a day format to tell a serious story was what birthed the meme.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because nobody turns on the tv looking to watch some after school special

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bump

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they aren't commentary. They are preaching coming from a place of profound outrage made worse by profound ignorance and a stubborn unwillingness to engage with reality on reality's terms.

    It's why you can point out that every mass shooter was known to the FBI, sometimes for years in advance, and certain types of people will still insist that the solution is simply to ban guns, instead of realizing that the people who have the power to prevent tragedies are instead seemingly encouraging them.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing OK KO really suffers from is that when it wants to be tongue in cheek about something that was super lame, it doesn't change the fact that it is still super lame.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Change of tone from all other episodes
    >Message is moronic because is being written by Cali nepobabis who never experienced life outside of university and their cliches
    >As such they often are poorly researched as well, often just parroting telephoned talking points from the writers favorite shitty news channel
    >Sometimes they just outright lie to push their point
    There are so many factors working against them since they inherently are about sending a message first and telling a story second. They are difficult to pull off properly, so its no surprise that most just suck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Static Shock did it in 2002, literally aired months after 9/11 and only three years after columbine. If a show two decades old can make a far more coherent and intelligent statement on guns than OK KO, there is a problem on the shows fault.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >waaaah, cartoon said I shouldn't shoot people with my gun
    Do americans really?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People watch cartoons to be entertained. Not to be indoctrinated dumb bullshit. That’s what school is for moron.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Skeleton Remote episode is especially bad because it felt like it was written by a child. It had no nuance on tbe subject of gun control and seemed to argue that banning all guns everywhere forever was a valid solution to the problem.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      plus lots of people having far more dangerous powers than "turn people into skeleton" ruins it too

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people who think alignments in dungeons and dragons suck because they want to be "quirky" which just means chaotic neutral

    imagine having opinions or morals or some shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't they get rid of alignments because they restricted roleplaying and character creation too much?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, because alignments are not rules, they're guidelines

        also it's stupid because hell is STILL a plane LITERALLY aligned with EVIL

        ANGELS are LITERALLY outsides aligned with GOOD AND BENEVOLENCE

        there is no point to gods without alignments

        >restricted RP
        imagine thinking that a character that has no worldview or principles is worth roleplaying. imagine taking away the motivations for a character. like what the frick kind of a question is that

        >character creation
        that's not an argument either, because characters can change from the time that they're created. it just has to make sense and be gradual

        how is this such a huge leap in logic for some people?

        also, dungeon masters should put guidelines in place because if the party is a bunch of murder hobo shit, and the DM punishes them with a TPK, everyone has no one to blame but themselves because the DM didn't put in alignments and the players didn't have any sort of discipline about their make believe

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These "social commentary" episodes always fall flat when the cartoon in question thinks they're making the world different by being preachy.

    Meanwhile Smiling Friends just had an episode about the president and election BS. Not gonna pretend that episode is a scathing satire or anything but it doesn't need to be. It's a goofy comedy.

    TL;DR not funny, didn't laugh

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >O...K...K...O... O K K O...Is that short for something? Someone find out. Anyway, folks, you've got this show here, this cartoon, which by the way is not like the cartoons that were on when I was a kid. You see the way they draw hands? They're just circles! They can't draw hands! I tell you, my son Barron, so talented, even he can draw hands. They must outsource the drawings to CHINA! I don't know...I don't know...anyway, so this cartoon, turns out it's owned by warnermedia, which also owns CNN. The Fake News, CNN. So I watch an episode of this show, unbelievable. Their boss, Mr.Gar, standing there with his nipples protruding, very very disrespectful. And it's not just me saying this, but the women on this show, and we love our women...but so thick. Some would say, too thick! I mean, you look at them, and they're all legs! And it's not just me, but many people are saying this, MANY PEOPLE! So I call up my guys, I call up Jared, he knows about these things, and I say "look, we have to cancel this show." You hear those cheers? They had to insert those cheers when Dendy walked in, FAKE CHEERS, but our people, the BEST people, they knew we had to cancel the show. And boy, did we cancel it. 40 episode season, yuge season....and we halved it! Down to 20! Cancelled it bigly!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bravo sir, bravo.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The recent Dr Who embodies this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What happened in Dr Who?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Social commentary episodes can be good, but they require one to keep the show good, deliver the message in a way that doesn’t come off as condescending or hamfisted, avoid pulling punches while being reasonably appropriate, and be precise with the point. If you aim to have opposing sides, there has to be some room for an actual argument rather than bad faith… the exception of this being something that is pretty obvious for kids to know is bad like smoking or littering. Nobody’s perfect about this, but at least avoid being hamfisted.

    OK KO bungled its anti-gun episode with its cowardly execution of the consequences of using the skeleton beams being relatively harmless, Static Shock did a good job by not holding punches with the dangers of guns and showing why someone would want to use one.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, was this episode a satire of gun control PSAs or was it a genuine PSA?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OK KO was cringe in general

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