Why do so many people trash talk the Rankin Bass Hobbit and LOTR movies?

Why do so many people trash talk the Rankin Bass Hobbit and LOTR movies? Yeah I get Peter Jackson and Ralph Bakshee went for a grander scale but there's a lot of simple charm that gets swept aside because people don't like that it's a musical or that there's not enough high budget battles. Plus the music kicks ass.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where there’s a whip there’s a way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When there is a whip thereis a way

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure those movies are beloved idk who you're talking to.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People shit on the animated Hobbit movie? It was my understanding that only the RB LotR movie was the black sheep here, Hobbit's usually seen a slightly dated but charming in addition to not being unreasonably long like Jackson's trilogy.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never seen anyone talk shit about it at all, most discussion is it being a nice novelty.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too bad Tolkien never lived to see any of these adaptations, because he would've hated them. He spent years getting angry at fans and other writers, you think he could've handled something like this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Given the only one he saw was a glorified slideshow that bastardized his work beyond any recognition there's no place to go but up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick am I looking at?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Given the only one he saw was a glorified slideshow that bastardized his work beyond any recognition there's no place to go but up.

        I’m pretty sure he never saw that one, it was only shown in like 1 theater ever.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but anon, you just posted kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He’d be grateful that at least neither of them were Disney. He openly hated Disney movies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s “too bad?” You wanted to epically troll the father of modern fantasy further?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it’s fun. Like when CS Lewis put Santa Claus into The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe mainly to piss him off.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fair enough. I always did enjoy that Lewis was a bit of an imp, for all his scholarly ways.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well he was Irish

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So more of a leprechaun, then

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He would have murdered his family to avoid Rangs of Powah. Peter Jackson's The Hobbit would have been a grave insult but Rangz? It could not be allowed to exist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because he would've hated them.
      He kind of hated everything

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do so many people trash talk the Rankin Bass Hobbit and LOTR movies?
    Because they're not very good.
    They're interesting and charming, but they're not very good.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never seen anyone say anything bad about The Hobbit. Closest is just people who aren’t aware it exists.

    And the main negative thing people bring up about Bakshi’s LOTR is the rotoscoping. I think a good number of people who shit on the rotoscoping have never even watched it and have only seen clips.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people only say that the animation today looks weird and it does, but it's okay for 1977.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In 1978 we got Ralph Bakshi’s superior Middle Earth film so it looks like shit. To make matters worse, in 1977 we got his best film yet: WIZARDS.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Wizards
        DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Perhaps. (BTW Wizards can be viewed for free on the Internet Archive)

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish Bakshi had been allowed to finish the trilogy, he did make a really good movie with his rotoscopes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he did make a really good movie with his rotoscopes.
      No he didn't. Bakshi's LotR fricks up so many important details and omits so many plot points that even if it was animated perfectly, it still would've sucked.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's the guy fron smiling friends

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People like Rankin Bass’s The Hobbit, Return of the King is the one people shit on.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Flight of Dragons.
    >why'd they have to make the yellow wizard Asian?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s really more like they wanted to make an asian wizard (because they wanted to have some asian looking dragons) and then they needed a color to assign to him so they picked yellow. Which is still racist. But also, yellow is a lucky color in China that symbolizes power and prosperity, so the Magic Chinese Guy= Yellow Guy trope also sorta comes from that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IIRC there's also a prominent Chinese wizard in one of the Dragon Knight books that Carolinus has to square off against.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno about the LOTR ones, but I quite like the animated Hobbit movie. It's a bit rushed at times, but I like the unique art style and the intricate designs on the dwarvish armor.

    Besides, the Peter Jackson Hobbit movies sucked ass:
    >shit-faced Radagast
    >moronic dwarf designs
    >Lake-Town is a ridiculous shithole instead of a cozy town on a lake
    >only reason Smaug spoke to Bilbo in the book was to coax him out of hiding. Bilbo has the ring off in the movie, so Smaug just looks like a dunderhead who loves the sound of his own voice
    >Smaug and Sauron are both rekt 5 minutes into the third movie, leaving the 2 stupid interchangeable CGI orcs as our only villains
    >film focuses on Stephen Fry and that shitty Grima Wormtongue ripoff instead of Smaug's attack on Lake-Town
    >third film is just one long CGI fight scene, barely qualifies as a movie

    • 2 weeks ago
      Artemis

      This anon gets it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks. It just drives me crazy how shit the Peter Jackson movies are, especially the third one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It saddened me when I first got on the internet in the late 90s and discovered people don't like kitty cat Smaug. At least he was different than your typical fantasy dragon.
      The animated movie is what got me into Tolkien's books in the first place back in grade school so The Hobbit film will always be special to me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same. I read the Hobbit repeatedly in 5th and 6th grade after watching the movie. Kitty cat Smaug rules.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cuz rotoscoping sucks my nuts and should never be used for anything but the gimmick itself

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rankin Bass didn't rotoscope though (they just used Japanese animators). You're confusing them with Ralph Bakshi.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shit, you're right. I had no idea there were two animated LOTR movies from different companies in back to back years.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, the whole affair is kind of a mess and for years I couldn't keep it straight either. I'm quite fond of the Rankin Bass Hobbit, but both their and Ralph's attempts at adapting LOTR don't really do it for me. Although "Where There's a Whip There's a Way" is quite catchy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Down Down to Goblin town is a banger, too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah The Hobbit is way better than LOTR besides the songs which are still good

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's a lot of good and a lot of lame to them.
    i dont know anyone other than diehard bakshi fans who think his version was better. they just respect the creative techniques he used.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've always loved The Hobbit. The songs are great too. Very charming and comfy movies.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the art style is ugly as frick, musicals are gay, and it makes a bunch of moronic changes to the story

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The changes are barely noticeable -- they just skip shit like Beorn's house.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >musicals are gay
      you must have fricking despised the source material, then

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people talk trash about rankin bass hobbit

    those people do not matter, they're NPCs

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From my experience, most people are at least amicable to the Rankin bass hobbit.
    I Love that version because it's just good fun.
    Smaug's VA in the animated hobbit also just felt like he did a better job and hearing Bendydick Cumbersnatch's version just felt lacking.
    Perhaps it's just childhood nostalgia from watching the animated version so many times it set unreasonable expectations.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got to watch The Hobbit in my 6th grade reading class.
    10 months later, The Fellowship of the Ring got released in theaters.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    sage

    because they are animated on twos and threes.
    /thread

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RIP Mip

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I rewatched them recently and was disappointed that despite liking it as a kid I found the Lord of the Rings film kind of shitty.

    The Hobbit one is great though. More people should watch it.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do so many people trash talk the Rankin Bass Hobbit and LOTR movies?
    Because like Rings of Power, they travesty the source material.

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