It's "better" just because the sequel trilogy is absolute, irredeemable dogshit. I just rewatched it the other day and yes it's only THINGS I KNOW and forgettable characters.
>the 11th best out of 11 movies
If you count Rogue One and Solo, you also have to count:
The Holiday Special.
Ewoks - Battle for Endor
Ewoks - Caravan of Courage
The Clone Wars (feature film)
So that makes it 15th out of 15 (although you can make an argument that Solo and the Holiday Special are worse.).
No we don't, because only one of the films you listed had a theatrical release. The others are made for TV or direct-to-video, which sets them apart in their own category.
>because only one of the films you listed had a theatrical release.
That seems like an arbitrary distinction. And as you just said: It doesn't even apply to The Clone Wars, which means you miscounted even by your own arbitrary standards.
>counting the live action films which actually had A grade production budgets
Then don't count the original Star Wars, because it had a budget 30 to 50 percent lower than actual A grade productions at the time.
Shut up you know what I mean. There's a reason it's aged well and Caravan of Courage hasn't.
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>There's a reason it's aged well
Yes. Lucas remastering it every five years and modernizing its effects. Why do you think he doesn't want anyone to see the original?
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The scanned 35mm version of ANH that I watch looks amazing
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>looks amazing
Sure. For what it was at the time. But it did not age as well as you pretend it did.
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No it literally looks fantastic for when it was made and it's budget. It has better effects than marvelshit made today.
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>fantastic >for when it was made and it's budget.
That's literally what I said. >It has better effects than marvelshit made today.
It has completely different effects. Miniature models, matte painting backgrounds, puppets, practical effects. Some of those things do stand out with on high resolution monitors and with the more photorealistic shit that's being done today. Not all of them, but some.
Marvel is pure digital effects, Star Wars had barely any of those before the "Special Edition".
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No need to go back and forth here. The film's theatrical cut in 35mm still holds up. The entire original trilogy does. The prequels have aged the worst but they still look completely fine to good.
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>still holds up
If you apply lower standards to it than you do to other things, sure. >prequels have aged the worst but they still look completely fine
Hell no. They look disgustingly fake. Sure, it's the best they could do back then, but they aged like milk.
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Anon you clearly have not watched the prequels in 4K. They didn't age like milk at all. The one which has actually aged the worst is ROTS. And yet it looks better than many 200M cbms made recently. Avengers endgame has aged like milk more than any SW movie, why? Because like the movies or not Lucasfilm actually puts effort into the technical aspects.
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>They didn't age like milk at all.
Sorry, anon, but video game graphics look better nowadays than the prequels do. No matter how much you upscale them, their CGI looks exceedingly ... unnatural.
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>plays vidya
Yikes, video games look like shit today and only don't due to high framerates. Prequel graphics look better than many capeshits made the last 7 years.
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>video games look like shit today >and only don't
Nice contradiction, mate.
Also, no, framerates have nothing to do with it. You can look at stills and they'll look better than the prequels.
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>you can look at stills and they'll look better than the prequels
if you have shit taste
>Not Force Awakens or Rise of Skywalker?
Way better than rogue one
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure they were... bet you were one of those guys who thought TFA was the best Star Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back or Jedi, right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No homosexual, im not one of those gays because those gays bandwagon hopped on the rogue one train. Williams scored movies >>>>>> a shity cast of characters with a vader hallway scene
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Yeah, right. I bet you think Jar Jar Binks is stupid & annoying, but look the other way for C-3PO. I bet you even simp for the whole Ewok portion of RotJ.
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Anonymous
I never thought Jar Jar was annoying. And the ewoks are my least favorite part about RotJ. So you wiffed on both of those.
Because it's not trying to be Star Wars.
It's trying to be a cookie-cutter battlefield flick like Saving Private Ryan or Dunkirk, just set in the Star Wars universe with lots of fanservice (which is why fanboys pretend that it's good) and trying to close a plothole that never was one (showing exactly what kind of autistic audience it's trying to cater to).
Star Wars is defined by its writing and editing and music as much as by everything else.
Lucas did have a very unique way of writing dialogue that I think wasn’t apparent until someone else got the reigns of Star Wars. Characters bumbling over each other and trading witty jabs like in a marvel movie just feels so out of place. And placing a try hard psuedo realistic atmosphere in this universe doesnf work either.
I think some of the earlier Star Wars video games and such tried hard to copy the Lucas style while Disney clearly did not and it’s very noticeable now
>Lucas did have a very unique way of writing dialogue
Lucas literally hired Kasdan to write the dialogue for him for TESB and RotJ, because he got too much shit for how horrible his own dialogues were from both the public and from his own actors.
Kasdan also was involved in TFA and Solo.
Ep 1-3 were Lucas doing whatever he wanted, and fans hated that.
Episodes 7-8 were SW moving forward and trying something new, and fans hated that, too.
Rogue One was their best attempt to give the fans what they thought they wanted, and in doing so created a Dirty-Dozen knock-off that breaks continuity and tells an entirely unimportant story.
>killing Han by patricide >Luke exiling himself >Luke doing a force projection thousands of light years away
Anon, 7 and 8 did a lot of things which were in fact good. You want to complain about death star shit complain at Rogue One or Return of the Jedi. TFA is less offensive than both in that regard.
OT Black folk will forever be mad the PT shits on their boomer space adventure
Rogue 1 is like an epilogue to the PT so by extension, the OT Black person cannot acknowledge that it’s a better Star Wars movie than their steaming pile of shit they call a trilogy
in the real SW movies, humans only have very non-specific American or British accents. even actors like Sam Jackson and Temura Morrison make a noticeable effort to make their accents sound less regional. this is used to signify how all humans seem to have a single monolithic culture, with the only real distinction being how characters closer to the Republic/Empire are more likely to sound British, and on a more meta level it makes SW feel like the old films and serials that George was inspired by.
in disney wars they just let their actors speak in their normal accents and it's incredibly jarring. there are characters with obvious Mexican and Indian accents in Rogue One, but where are Mexico and India in the SW universe? why are these people the only humans in the galaxy who don't sound like everyone else?
disney wants to put anti-racist messaging in star wars but they are too stupid to understand how that was already present in the form of human vs. alien conflict. the characters with non-Anglo accents should have been aliens, as they were in all the real movies. instead, Rogue One and other disney wars media like it butchers the anti-racist messaging by having their heroes consist almost entirely of humans, with the occasional quirky robot thrown in. there is no room for aliens because they are too busy showing off the diversity of humans, something which conflicts with the central themes of SW, but they are mentally moronic and incapable of understanding that.
I would love to see a Gareth Edward's cut of this movie, because apparently 90% of the movie was reshot/recut. I wonder what his original vision was, because I love his godzilla.
And it's one of the better ones somehow.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
Its a 6/10. Which is the highest of all nuwars shit
It's "better" just because the sequel trilogy is absolute, irredeemable dogshit. I just rewatched it the other day and yes it's only THINGS I KNOW and forgettable characters.
OT and PT are better. Haven't seen Solo so don't know how it compares.
Solo is good. Same level or better. Good acting and story.
Because Star Wars is dogshit, anything that comes out is instantly better than Jedi, The Prequels and The Sequels
It's literally the 11th best out of 11 movies and anyone saying otherwise is a redditor.
>the 11th best out of 11 movies
If you count Rogue One and Solo, you also have to count:
The Holiday Special.
Ewoks - Battle for Endor
Ewoks - Caravan of Courage
The Clone Wars (feature film)
So that makes it 15th out of 15 (although you can make an argument that Solo and the Holiday Special are worse.).
>you also have to count:
No we don't, because only one of the films you listed had a theatrical release. The others are made for TV or direct-to-video, which sets them apart in their own category.
>because only one of the films you listed had a theatrical release.
That seems like an arbitrary distinction. And as you just said: It doesn't even apply to The Clone Wars, which means you miscounted even by your own arbitrary standards.
I'm not being autistic about it and only counting the live action films which actually had A grade production budgets
>counting the live action films which actually had A grade production budgets
Then don't count the original Star Wars, because it had a budget 30 to 50 percent lower than actual A grade productions at the time.
Shut up you know what I mean. There's a reason it's aged well and Caravan of Courage hasn't.
>There's a reason it's aged well
Yes. Lucas remastering it every five years and modernizing its effects. Why do you think he doesn't want anyone to see the original?
The scanned 35mm version of ANH that I watch looks amazing
>looks amazing
Sure. For what it was at the time. But it did not age as well as you pretend it did.
No it literally looks fantastic for when it was made and it's budget. It has better effects than marvelshit made today.
>fantastic
>for when it was made and it's budget.
That's literally what I said.
>It has better effects than marvelshit made today.
It has completely different effects. Miniature models, matte painting backgrounds, puppets, practical effects. Some of those things do stand out with on high resolution monitors and with the more photorealistic shit that's being done today. Not all of them, but some.
Marvel is pure digital effects, Star Wars had barely any of those before the "Special Edition".
No need to go back and forth here. The film's theatrical cut in 35mm still holds up. The entire original trilogy does. The prequels have aged the worst but they still look completely fine to good.
>still holds up
If you apply lower standards to it than you do to other things, sure.
>prequels have aged the worst but they still look completely fine
Hell no. They look disgustingly fake. Sure, it's the best they could do back then, but they aged like milk.
Anon you clearly have not watched the prequels in 4K. They didn't age like milk at all. The one which has actually aged the worst is ROTS. And yet it looks better than many 200M cbms made recently. Avengers endgame has aged like milk more than any SW movie, why? Because like the movies or not Lucasfilm actually puts effort into the technical aspects.
>They didn't age like milk at all.
Sorry, anon, but video game graphics look better nowadays than the prequels do. No matter how much you upscale them, their CGI looks exceedingly ... unnatural.
>plays vidya
Yikes, video games look like shit today and only don't due to high framerates. Prequel graphics look better than many capeshits made the last 7 years.
>video games look like shit today
>and only don't
Nice contradiction, mate.
Also, no, framerates have nothing to do with it. You can look at stills and they'll look better than the prequels.
>you can look at stills and they'll look better than the prequels
if you have shit taste
Back to /r/eddit/prequelmemes with you.
This movie is better than any Nu Wars property created before or since and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
You would fit right in on reddit homosexual
I don't care, I really don't
>cuckime
Opinion discarded, you have no taste in kino.
doesnt mean it isnt shit
gays can shit on R1 all they want but it was literally the best and only good thing to come out of nu-wars so far.
It's literally the most bland nu-wars film. The cast of characters are a mutt squad.
Agreed, and yet its still the best.
It's the worst, frick off.
This.
Not Force Awakens or Rise of Skywalker?
>Not Force Awakens or Rise of Skywalker?
Way better than rogue one
Sure they were... bet you were one of those guys who thought TFA was the best Star Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back or Jedi, right?
No homosexual, im not one of those gays because those gays bandwagon hopped on the rogue one train. Williams scored movies >>>>>> a shity cast of characters with a vader hallway scene
Yeah, right. I bet you think Jar Jar Binks is stupid & annoying, but look the other way for C-3PO. I bet you even simp for the whole Ewok portion of RotJ.
I never thought Jar Jar was annoying. And the ewoks are my least favorite part about RotJ. So you wiffed on both of those.
it was a rogue star wars movie
All of Disney’s Star Wars feels like that. Cgi is too similar to marvel
The camera angles and transitions and editing style frick it.
>protagonist is a badass with extraordinary skills just because she is female. No backstory, no training scenes ,nothing
Vader's 60 second scene at the end makes this very mediocre movie worth watching.
The crystal necklace she got from her Mother was going to be a lightsaber crystal plot device but they didn't bother.
Because it's good.
The muted colors filter, shot on digital cameras, cinematography, music, it’s all shitty
>shot on digital cameras
idiot
It does. It felt like the OT. And looked more like a star wars movie than any of the PT, which were all just cgi overloaded messes.
Star Wars doesn't feel the same anymore.
Bc the robot is a genuinely decent character and carry’s the film
This is the only Disney Star Wars production that does kind of feel like Star Wars.
I unironically feel that this is the best Star Wars movie, and by a great margin.
it was too political and about current events?
Because it's not trying to be Star Wars.
It's trying to be a cookie-cutter battlefield flick like Saving Private Ryan or Dunkirk, just set in the Star Wars universe with lots of fanservice (which is why fanboys pretend that it's good) and trying to close a plothole that never was one (showing exactly what kind of autistic audience it's trying to cater to).
It's painfully boring. I bet the people here who says it's the best have not watched it all the way through more than once.
>more than once.
It's fricking starshit. Why would watch it more than once?
Star Wars is defined by its writing and editing and music as much as by everything else.
Lucas did have a very unique way of writing dialogue that I think wasn’t apparent until someone else got the reigns of Star Wars. Characters bumbling over each other and trading witty jabs like in a marvel movie just feels so out of place. And placing a try hard psuedo realistic atmosphere in this universe doesnf work either.
I think some of the earlier Star Wars video games and such tried hard to copy the Lucas style while Disney clearly did not and it’s very noticeable now
>Lucas did have a very unique way of writing dialogue
Lucas literally hired Kasdan to write the dialogue for him for TESB and RotJ, because he got too much shit for how horrible his own dialogues were from both the public and from his own actors.
Kasdan also was involved in TFA and Solo.
It's too gritty. It's too focused on the nitty gritty details of warfare and the carnage instead of being a fun galactic space adventure
I watched it yesterday and thought something similar, there was very little warmth or levity to it which is why it doesn't feel like a SW movie imo.
post lucas
2010s anyway
Fans said lucas' prequels didnt feel like star wars either, aka fans are full of shit then and now.
SW is the og OT, period
All 9 movies are more than fine, fans are homosexuals for crying so much about the PT and ST.
because it's shitty fanfic
Ep 1-3 were Lucas doing whatever he wanted, and fans hated that.
Episodes 7-8 were SW moving forward and trying something new, and fans hated that, too.
Rogue One was their best attempt to give the fans what they thought they wanted, and in doing so created a Dirty-Dozen knock-off that breaks continuity and tells an entirely unimportant story.
>Episodes 7-8 were SW moving forward and trying something new, and fans hated that, too.
>third death star is something new
>killing Han by patricide
>Luke exiling himself
>Luke doing a force projection thousands of light years away
Anon, 7 and 8 did a lot of things which were in fact good. You want to complain about death star shit complain at Rogue One or Return of the Jedi. TFA is less offensive than both in that regard.
OT Black folk will forever be mad the PT shits on their boomer space adventure
Rogue 1 is like an epilogue to the PT so by extension, the OT Black person cannot acknowledge that it’s a better Star Wars movie than their steaming pile of shit they call a trilogy
Still nobody likes prequelshit, nostalgiatard
This movie is good as long as you ignore the 40 minute sequence in the middle with the kung fu force monkey and Forrest Whitaker
Disney shills hate this movie because it is actually decent unlike the other stuff.
>Disney shills hate this movie
Stop posting.
for me, it was mostly the accents.
in the real SW movies, humans only have very non-specific American or British accents. even actors like Sam Jackson and Temura Morrison make a noticeable effort to make their accents sound less regional. this is used to signify how all humans seem to have a single monolithic culture, with the only real distinction being how characters closer to the Republic/Empire are more likely to sound British, and on a more meta level it makes SW feel like the old films and serials that George was inspired by.
in disney wars they just let their actors speak in their normal accents and it's incredibly jarring. there are characters with obvious Mexican and Indian accents in Rogue One, but where are Mexico and India in the SW universe? why are these people the only humans in the galaxy who don't sound like everyone else?
disney wants to put anti-racist messaging in star wars but they are too stupid to understand how that was already present in the form of human vs. alien conflict. the characters with non-Anglo accents should have been aliens, as they were in all the real movies. instead, Rogue One and other disney wars media like it butchers the anti-racist messaging by having their heroes consist almost entirely of humans, with the occasional quirky robot thrown in. there is no room for aliens because they are too busy showing off the diversity of humans, something which conflicts with the central themes of SW, but they are mentally moronic and incapable of understanding that.
>Why doesn't this feel like a star wars movie?
It's good
t. muttoid
It really is not.
I would love to see a Gareth Edward's cut of this movie, because apparently 90% of the movie was reshot/recut. I wonder what his original vision was, because I love his godzilla.