>America makes garbage and only excels when making stuff for kids >Japan makes quality stuff except when it's anything not story driven >Canada makes fart cartoons >and France makes high quality stuff no matter what
when making stuff for kids >90% of the output is aimed at kids
not story driven >most modern shows are nothing but interconnected poorly constructed stories with characters you feel nothing for or does no growing in the story besides power gay shenanigans >canada doesnt have an industry so america just outsources their properties to them >french stuff is not centralized enough to hold a world wild industry or a following and they also do outsource work from both american and even more so with japan has they straight up high key animators of very popular properties
you all have 1 thing in common. you do not appreciate the work people make. >this is garbage i can tell because its ugly and buzzword and buzzword
you are so focused on generalizing and writing things off you wont even give it a chance >this is top notch masterwork
okay what other aspects did you enjoy about this other than 5 second fight scene? did you like the voice acting? the characters? the music? the sound design? how about the direction?
i like everything once and awhile in meaningful chunks and rarely disregard things because people said x about y thing however what i really look for in a show or movie is passion and people actually enjoying what they are making.
i highly suggest you all start looking at smaller stuff instead of being on your knees waiting for some massive company who only does things to make money, to spit out some multi season cartoon or several movie if you want something individually made to you
what have they made
barely an industry there but most of what they make is outsource work from other countries primarily japan.
I do want to see the koji project take off but thats just what i know, i would like to know what that country makes for itself just like for china but its not exactly something you can look up since no one is interested to report on it in other countries.
>Name something other than Wallace and Gromit.
Aardman pretty much has no competition except for Laika when it comes to stop motion movies in the entire world.
Yeah that's not stop motion.
Else I'd include all of the puppetry shows too that youtube probably doesn't have half of the intros for because of how old they all are.
I'm surprised that puppetry didn't win since surely that would be cheaper than CG.
>Still, those comics left their country, why not the animation?
I suppose dubbing and distributing argentine cartoons didn't look profitable enough.
His works weren't bad or excellent, the guy was painfully average.
Direct to video/TV tier.
Take a look
>Why (ESLs) can't form questions in English? >Why can't form questions in English?
You are supposed to be able to make sense of a sentence even if the parentheses are gone.
WTF are you on about?
Americans invented animation. Most innovations have come out of american studios and people around the world immigrate to the US to learn/work on animation. Japs use animation in place of live action because it was cheaper than setting up film sets with old fashioned cameras back in the day. This means they routinely work on genres that other countries seldom if ever cover. A ton of artsy types in the US looking to dodge the draft fled to Canada during Vietnam. Since the US doesn't place as much importance in animation as it does in live action, Canada has an easier time making competing animated shows that Americans are happy to consume. France has a large pool of artists with a portion of them naturally gravitating towards animation. It's reputation for historical masterworks also attract artists from around the world.
It started in France in the late 1800s but to pretend that America hasn’t always been huge in Animation is a homosexual move, as they probably did the most to push it out of its infancy. You can’t argue that Americans are unimportant to the history of animation when they released the first animated feature film.
More importantly France shovels millions of euros of annual subsidies towards the animation sector via the CNC because they realise the value of soft power diplomacy they can leverage from being industry leaders just behind the US/Canada and Japan/Korea. French animation is barely barely profitable, it's entirely kept afloat by the state as a prestige project (not that that's a bad thing).
One is not like the others...
You sure?
3 flags too many in the OP
>America makes garbage and only excels when making stuff for kids
>Japan makes quality stuff except when it's anything not story driven
>Canada makes fart cartoons
>and France makes high quality stuff no matter what
>except when it's anything not story driven
when making stuff for kids
>90% of the output is aimed at kids
not story driven
>most modern shows are nothing but interconnected poorly constructed stories with characters you feel nothing for or does no growing in the story besides power gay shenanigans
>canada doesnt have an industry so america just outsources their properties to them
>french stuff is not centralized enough to hold a world wild industry or a following and they also do outsource work from both american and even more so with japan has they straight up high key animators of very popular properties
you all have 1 thing in common. you do not appreciate the work people make.
>this is garbage i can tell because its ugly and buzzword and buzzword
you are so focused on generalizing and writing things off you wont even give it a chance
>this is top notch masterwork
okay what other aspects did you enjoy about this other than 5 second fight scene? did you like the voice acting? the characters? the music? the sound design? how about the direction?
i like everything once and awhile in meaningful chunks and rarely disregard things because people said x about y thing however what i really look for in a show or movie is passion and people actually enjoying what they are making.
i highly suggest you all start looking at smaller stuff instead of being on your knees waiting for some massive company who only does things to make money, to spit out some multi season cartoon or several movie if you want something individually made to you
barely an industry there but most of what they make is outsource work from other countries primarily japan.
I do want to see the koji project take off but thats just what i know, i would like to know what that country makes for itself just like for china but its not exactly something you can look up since no one is interested to report on it in other countries.
Ahem
what have they made
>what have they made
Unitedstatian animation since like 20 years ago to date
Lack of funding mostly. Exceptions are Britain which prefers comics to cartoons, and Germany which is too autistic to produce anything good.
UK are best when it comes to comfy af stop-motion
slavs are better at that
Name something other than Wallace and Gromit.
The chicken movie?
Chicken Run was a good movie.
I saw chicken run again in cinema lately, as good as always
>Name something other than Wallace and Gromit.
Aardman pretty much has no competition except for Laika when it comes to stop motion movies in the entire world.
Too bad that Laika's stories are crap
I'm more concerned with Laika's character design being crap.
>he hasn't heard of Jan Švankmajer
Absolute state of Cinemaphile
*blocks your path*
Don't need to, W&G are already perfection.
Morph
Trap Door
Paddington Bear
The Clangers
Postman Pat
Bob the Builder
Shaun the Sheep and Creature Comforts, if those aren't considered cheating
Pingu
Fireman Sam
The Wombles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCvqAZo5kQ
There are also a host of puppetry shows but that's not frame-by-frame animation.
>Forgetting Thomas the Tank Engine
Bitish stop-motion is a near-inexhaustible well
It's not really stop-motion
Is close to it.
Yeah that's not stop motion.
Else I'd include all of the puppetry shows too that youtube probably doesn't have half of the intros for because of how old they all are.
I'm surprised that puppetry didn't win since surely that would be cheaper than CG.
You don't know what autism means
Hue flag should be here for mika alone
Britain and Spain had their studios
Argentina had this guy
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Garc%C3%ADa_Ferr%C3%A9
Mmm. Why didn't they left their own country
>Mmm. Why didn't they left their own country
Most of his works were too Argentine-centric and only made it to Uruguay and Spain as far as I know.
Still, those comics left their country, why not the animation?
>Still, those comics left their country, why not the animation?
I suppose dubbing and distributing argentine cartoons didn't look profitable enough.
His works weren't bad or excellent, the guy was painfully average.
Direct to video/TV tier.
Take a look
Post examples from each.
Soviet Animation used to be great, you might as well include the U.S.S.R. flag.
None of these places are real and you can't prove otherwise.
Why (ESLs) can't form questions in English?
>Why (ESLs) can't form questions in English?
>Why can't form questions in English?
You are supposed to be able to make sense of a sentence even if the parentheses are gone.
WTF are you on about?
He's obviously making fun of OP, you fricking idiot.
Idk nazi moron, why cant you speak without buzzwords?
Americans invented animation. Most innovations have come out of american studios and people around the world immigrate to the US to learn/work on animation. Japs use animation in place of live action because it was cheaper than setting up film sets with old fashioned cameras back in the day. This means they routinely work on genres that other countries seldom if ever cover. A ton of artsy types in the US looking to dodge the draft fled to Canada during Vietnam. Since the US doesn't place as much importance in animation as it does in live action, Canada has an easier time making competing animated shows that Americans are happy to consume. France has a large pool of artists with a portion of them naturally gravitating towards animation. It's reputation for historical masterworks also attract artists from around the world.
>Americans invented animation.
Well... they literally did, Anon.
They didn't.
The absolute state of Cinemaphileggers
It started in France in the late 1800s but to pretend that America hasn’t always been huge in Animation is a homosexual move, as they probably did the most to push it out of its infancy. You can’t argue that Americans are unimportant to the history of animation when they released the first animated feature film.
>Get corrected
>BUT
Anon...
I’m a different Anon, dummy
I’m literally doing the correcting
More importantly France shovels millions of euros of annual subsidies towards the animation sector via the CNC because they realise the value of soft power diplomacy they can leverage from being industry leaders just behind the US/Canada and Japan/Korea. French animation is barely barely profitable, it's entirely kept afloat by the state as a prestige project (not that that's a bad thing).