What is it about that question that makes you think I'm underage?
3 months ago
Anonymous
If you weren't you wouldn't ask such a question to begin with.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I just had a thought and I'm just curious, where else would I ask?
3 months ago
Anonymous
youre talking to a fat frick who thinks he is hot shit.
the answer is no. women dont like his fat frick useless build on its own. but he is le maffia boss or whatever (never wathced the show) so women will flock to where power and cash comes from
3 months ago
Anonymous
>women will flock to where power and cash comes from
Wrong, women flock to male violence or male popularity. They give two shits for power/cash, otherwise they'd all be jerking off to joe biden and elon musk
Women are solely attractive to men who act hypergamous and hypersexual, that are also either violent, or popular, or both. That´s it.
If you think women care about money/power, you are reading too much into their basic, instinctive simple minds. Money and power make civilizations - women don't care for that nerd shit
She brings certain modes of conflict resolution from all the way back in the old country, from the poverty of French Indochina, where all higher authority was corrupt
No, they fricking didn't. It was all still there in the same spot from the pilot when carm gave the gun to Benny when he was guarding the house from the bear.
the FBI did have a terrible impact on tony's family, though: every single one of his capos flipped or interacted with the agency in some way, which led to their demise
3 months ago
Anonymous
The FBI needed tony producing a snuff video and handing it to them autographed to find something to arrest him for.
Zoomers and 90s born queers are the only ones who cry about the pilot episode. Sure it had some goodfellas influences, but it establishes most of the themes and characters and was extremely high quality and revolutionary for its time. People who try and act like it's some unwatchable abomination deserve the rope.
Sure, you can always say context counts but Chase literally had no idea what he was making in the first season, and especially in the pilot. The actors also said they didn’t know if they were making a parody of Goodfellas or what. Nobody is saying the entire show is shit. Anons need to calm down.
>Chase literally had no idea what he was making in the first season,
He knew it was about a mobster who has a c**t of a mother and is struggling to deal with and balance the stress both his mob family and his home family cause him and who starts seeing a psychiatrist. The show goes deeply in to other stuff over the years but what's presented in the pilot is basically the premise for the show. The show branched off after livia died but they knew what they were trying to do. Chase said if the pilot wasn't picked up he would have tried to film another 30 minutes of footage and release it as a low budget movie.
It would be best if zoomers stayed away from the sopranos entirely. The whole thing goes over their heads, they're incapable of understanding nuance or the human condition.
>most of you can't see it.
It's just reddit Black folk and zoomers mouthing off like usual. The biggest homosexuals are the ones who say it's not canon. Don't tar the rest of us.
You're a fricking moron. Most pilots are very different from what the first season becomes. Getting a pilot made is insanely difficult so they have to craft it to make the network happy so they will put money behind an unknown property. A pilot is also usually of a lower budget than a typical episode of the TV show and the actors have figured out the characters yet because odds are this will be a one and done thing. All things considered, Sopranos is one of the best pilots ever made.
seethe more. it's a sloppy ass pilot made by someone that didn't give a frick about the show until it became popular. he admitted it himself. he didn't think it would get picked up, but would help him make movies. i love how every anon justifies the pilot being shit by saying >all pilots were shitty back then! >do you even realize how bad TV was then?
it's ok to love the show and say that some episodes are fricking terrible
>. it's a sloppy ass pilot made by someone that didn't give a frick about the show until it became popular.
Find me a few better pilots from before the Sopranos you fricking moron. Most are shit, but you can see the glimmer of hope in them. Sopranos pilot had that and more. >he admitted it himself.
Irrelevant. >>all pilots were shitty back then!
They just were. The networks dozens of pilots a year and picked what they thought was the best one. TV shows today don't have pilots, they just buy the entire 1st season right away. The only better pilot than the Sopranos is probably Mad Men and Breaking Bad, but those are post-Sopranos pilots when networks saw the potential that these quality shows could have. >>do you even realize how bad TV was then?
TV back then was better than TV today by a fricking mile.
it's hilarious that you're seething so much and going up to bat for the pilot of The Sopranos, of all things. Why defend the pilot so hard when it's obvious the show has bad episodes through out its entire series?
I could list possibly 30 pilots better than The Sopranos >Irrelevant
exactly, you don't want to take any points and admit nobody had any fricking clue what they were doing. we can both agree it was lightning in a bottle that it took off the way it did. Everyone here loves the show, but you don't have to be such an autist about an objectively sloppy episode.
>Why defend the pilot so hard when it's obvious the show has bad episodes through out its entire series?
It's not a bad episode, much better than shit like Christopher or In Camelot. And pilots are a different beast from the rest of the show you dumb homosexual. A good pilot is hard to come by. The Sopranos had a good pilot. Is it anywhere near the best ep? Not even close. But most pilots are much worse. >I could list possibly 30 pilots better than The Sopranos
Get started then, homosexual. >exactly, you don't want to take any points and admit nobody had any fricking clue what they were doing.
That's true of lots of tv show and movies you dumb moron. Sometimes everything just somehow clicks. The Sopranos pilot did that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
not worth responding to someone that can't coherently explain why something is so good and just seethes the entire time. you may possibly be the most autistic person i've encountered on here. I hope you aren't punching walls right now and get a good sleep, anon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>not worth responding to
This coming from "I can name 30 better pilots than the Sopranos", yet can't even name fricking 1. Kys you worthless homosexual. >can't coherently explain why something is so good
I literally did moron. The pilot compared to the greatness that was the Sopranos is mediocre at best, but as a pilot its a great start and a good ep. Of course you can prove me wrong by naming a few of these 30 better pilots.
3 months ago
Anonymous
losing your fricking MIND. keep refreshing the thread over this.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm very calmly losing my mind as you make moronic claims like "herr derr I can name 30 better pilots", yet can't name a single 1.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>very calmly losing my mind >autistically seethes in every post
really makes me want to enjoy this even more. if you respond three more times i'll give you the top 5.
3 months ago
Anonymous
seethes in every post
You're the moron that can't counter any logic with shit other than "I can name 30 better pilots", and yet you STILL can't name a single 1. >if you respond three more times i'll give you the top 5.
You said 30. But ok, I'll take 5.
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Post 3. Name your 5 pilots better than the Sopranos pilot.
Actually, let me guess you response >"zomg you are seething so much lolololol"
And of course not name a single pilot.
I dunno I think you're selling it short. Let's say you lived to 50 without ever seeing the Sopranos, but you've seen hundreds upon hundreds of other shows. So at 50 years old, watching Sopranos for the first time you're going to see something you never saw in the other shows: a woman pointing a gun at her own daughter whom she thought was an intruder because she was trying to sneak back in from fricking her boyfriend. Sopranos is the only show ever to have that sort of scene. I'd definitely bet good money the pilot does just fine getting people interested.
>You're trying to sell the first episode being good from something completely out of character? Like not even close to what Carm is?
A pilot is never perfect you fricking homosexual. Lots of shows post-pilot literally change actors and make other major changes. A character being "a little out of character from what they would become" is a very small complaint. Tony's voice changes radically from the first season to the last. >It was literally the "parody of Goodfellas" that the actors thought they were doing
Just because they thought that doesn't mean it's what it was you fricking moron.
Still can't name better pilots?
I don't think so. You're just one of those "newer = better" morons.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Never would say that. I like season 1, it's just at the bottom of much better seasons. Season 2 is almost just as old but way better than the majority of seasons.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I like season 1, it's just at the bottom of much better seasons.
I would still take 1 over 5 and 6. Too much bullshit in later seasons with AJ, Meadow, Carmela spec house, among other things.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's fair. 5 is pretty bad and a lot of it is because of the badly written Buscemi and Carm stuff. I really do like AJ in the later seasons while Meadow is basically a ghost later on
>the first episode is so shit. sometimes i'm shocked that people become fans of the show nowadays and don't give up during season 1
I did lol took me over a decade to actually get past s1 especially ep1
or during the first episode, where its just a mid tier Goodfellas ripoff
Pilots are always the worst representation of the show
They're deliberately over the top to give everyone a quick insight as to who people are, and what is going on in their world.
The first season was pretty mediocre. Part of me always believed they intended for it to be a little lighthearted and goofy because otherwise people wouldn't have kept watching i.e. too depressing etc.
Maybe they just didn't really know where the frick they were going with it at the beginning.
Why wouldn’t the guy tell Vito to stay down? Or why wouldn’t Vito realize that if he thought something was up that the worst thing he could possibly do is come up?
Why wouldn’t the guy tell Vito to stay down? Or why wouldn’t Vito realize that if he thought something was up that the worst thing he could possibly do is come up?
>Was Vito gay?
"No!" >then why suck the guy's wiener?
It was a joke >why did he he make such a homossexual joke?
Because of the medication >what does the medication have to do with it?
It changes a mans sense of humour >was he still under the effects of the medication when he ran away?
Yes >was living with the fireman a joke?
Yes >why did he leave the fireman and the happiness he had found, even knowing Phil wanted his ass dead?
Because the effects of the medication wore off >how did Vito sneak behind Jackie Jr and "nothing personalled" him?
Objects of large mass can collapse upon themselves, create black holes and teleport themselves in wormholes. Vito was a man of large mass >did Vito also teleport the car and the driver?
Yes >Could Vito have teleported himself to another place when his jokes were found out?
No, the medication made him lose too much mass >how did Vito kill Jackie Jr with a toy gun?
He didn't, Jackie had a collapsed lung, as we can see by the snow already having blood when he falls, and Vito took the credit for it. Lots of luck >why does the scene where Vito threatens Finn DeTrollio look like bad CGI?
Objects of large mass, such as Vito, can deform their surroundings due to excerting a stronger force of gravity >was Finn really his arch nemesis?
Yes. Thin. Kind of tall. Looks like Daniel Day Lewis' son. Couldn't take a joke >would Vito kill him in the Yankees' game?
No, he just wanted to make a new friend, and share some jokes >why did Phil want Vito's death so much?
Because he was a closeted homosexual >wasn't it all a joke?
No, he wasn't fat, so he wasn't on medication
>someone saved my oc
lmao I'm honored Anon. Nothing I've ever done has really caught on (I'm the guy who tried to start the whole keyed/locked fiasco).
>everyone's experience of the the supernatural is a carbon copy
You don't know that, not even the people who have had genuine experiences know exactly what happened.
>Gigi died on the can, >johnny took a prison shit, >paulie took a wicked shit in italy >sean gismonde pooping while burglaring >tonys indian food >aids IBS >chris made numbah too in his pants >Agent Harris rotten virus butthole
There was a lot of shitting in this show
I don't like that they retconned Pussy flipping to happen in 1995
There's no way he didn't produce anything meaningful for five years and only then start to feel really conflicted about it. Wtf was he doing between 1995 and season 2 of The Sopranos?
The most logical place for the flip to happen would be an episode or two before his back pain. He wouldn't have been able to spin his wheels for that long without anyone going to jail. Jimmy lasted one fricking week.
Did the show ever explore the question of why Tony only had panic attacks every few years until 1998 when it was suddenly a weekly occurrence? This was when Jackie was still alive, his life hadn't changed much in a while.
Anxiety and depression comes in waves. Sometimes the treatment works or something traumatic will happen and put you back at square one. Tony would always think he’s fine and stop taking his meds too
Probably because the current acting boss at that time was hospitalized and he was in a position of higher responsibility. Unaddressed, but he was most definetly stressed about what he would need to do about his uncle and still hasn't formulated the puppet capo scheme.
Put the pieces together >mid life crisis >mixed relationship with kids and wife >mother getting more and more difficult as she gets older >taking on more work as Jackie got sick
>Someday soon, you're gonna have families of your own and if you're lucky, you'll remember the little moments like this that were good.
This is the most depressing line of the show and imo the entire theme of it. Tony knows his life sucks and is going to get worse every day until he dies and cherishes those little sparks of happiness that he knows are fleeting.
That's what the ducks were to Tony, and that's why the panic attacks started when they flew off. Times like that, times that were good, were getting harder to come by.
>find traces of the pillow
moron. She hadn't moved to the retirement community yet, and no one would think an 80 something year old woman dropping dead is remotely suspicious.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're the fricking moron if you think standard autopsy procedure doesn't exist, especially when she died under the nursery home's care.
-Main character's life is centered around his career, has deep-seated identity issues.
-Main character had an extremely cold and uncaring mother/mother-figure
-Main character's job is a boy's club where women are secondary figures
-Main character begins series in middle management and ascends to apex power by the last seasons
-Main character becomes increasingly depressed and hopeless as the series goes on
-Main character cheats on his blonde wife by constantly having not-so-secret affairs with women of a certain type (usually dark hair, mysterious, sad, moneyed.) Main character gets divorced/separated from her later in the series.
-Main character has an extremely turbulent and passionate affair with a dark-haired, swarthy woman who later dies and the main character feels a lot of regret over the way their relationship ended
-Main character confides in a middle-aged blonde woman with a bad leg
-Main character has a beautiful house and possessions envied by others
-Main character goes out west and does drugs in the final season, finds serenity
He's a detective at the end if the 14th episode for like 5 episodes.
He's in an earlier episode as a murderer, he's like a mentally disturbed limo driver that has a mental dilusion that he's in a relationship with a supermodel.
That happens alot, the guy that plays Pussy is in a bunch of episodes of a bunch of different people with different roles, like one he's just a guy the police interview to get a piece of information, then he's in the mob, then he's in the mob, then he's like in the mob, and finally I think he plays a character that's in the mob.
David Chase tried to hire Stevie Van Zandt as Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series). Then he tried to hire Ray Liotta and Brocco as Tony and Carm for his Goodfellas ripoff.. The dude was phoning this shit in until it somehow blew up.
>Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series).
Are you fricking moronic? Gandolfini was pitch fricking perfect. >The dude was phoning this shit in until it somehow blew up.
It blew up mid season 1 you fricking tard.
>not his fault you have the reading comprehension of jackie jr.
More like he has the writing skills of Jackie Jr. His sentence was poorly structured.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Stevie Van Zandt as Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series)
Tony wasn't the actor. Pretty safe to say that it's easy to know what I was talking about, but nice try.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It should have been:
"Stevie Van Zandt, possibly the worst actor of the series, as Tony."
Not my fault you're a fricking moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
kek
just admit that you're either hammered or projecting this "moron" thing that you've said 900 times.
3 months ago
Anonymous
the reading comp of jackie jr. and the intellect of paulie
take a midol
Literally double posting lol. My sentence was properly structured. Yours was a fricking mess. Putting a () after the fricking characters name and not the actor as if "Tony" is the (worst actor in the show).
3 months ago
Anonymous
take the L drukanon
next thing it'll be poppers and weird sex with you
3 months ago
Anonymous
second midol poster wasn't me but he did make me laugh. i actually like you too, anon. you're hilarious
Double posting again. Learned to properly express a thought in the written form, dummy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
second midol poster wasn't me but he did make me laugh. i actually like you too, anon. you're hilarious
3 months ago
Anonymous
the reading comp of jackie jr. and the intellect of paulie
take a midol
holy frick, take your meds anon. it's obviously nobody thought Gandolfini was the worst actor in the series
>Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series).
Are you fricking moronic? Gandolfini was pitch fricking perfect. >The dude was phoning this shit in until it somehow blew up.
It blew up mid season 1 you fricking tard.
>blew up mid season 1
EXACTLY. that's when he started to take it seriously. he fired most of the writing crew and hired new ones for season 2. I just imagine you rocking back and forth screeching
>holy frick, take your meds anon. it's obviously nobody thought Gandolfini was the worst actor in the series
Then don't write your sentences that way. You still can't name better pilots lol. >EXACTLY. that's when he started to take it seriously. he fired most of the writing crew and hired new ones for season 2. I just imagine you rocking back and forth screeching
What's the problem? You're making it seem like he ignored the show until it "blew up" in season 4. Once it got into a groove in mid season 1, he took it more seriously. Very common from a producer/writer working on multiple projects. >imagine you rocking back and forth screeching
Still can't name better pilots. I even gave you your 3 replies lololol
3 months ago
Anonymous
I hope I wake up tomorrow and you're still bumping this thread until I give you the list of pilots. I have it written, if you really want it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I hope I wake up tomorrow and you're still bumping this thread until I give you the list of pilots. I have it written, if you really want it?
Yes, give it now. If not, I will accept it as your defeat. >inb4 "herr derr seethe"
3 months ago
Anonymous
I promise you I will give you the list if you go back and watch the pilot episode right now. Lights off, head phones on. Explain to me in detail why it's such a good pilot. Why it speaks to you in such a way that nobody could ever criticize. I promise I'll be here waiting when you're done.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I promise you I will give you the list if you go back and watch the pilot episode right now
No. I've seen it many, many times. You lose. >Explain to me in detail why it's such a good pilot.
I did many times. You lose.
Here's the timeline >"I can name 30 better pilots" >"I will name 5 better pilots" >"I will name all 5 of them if you reply 3 times" >"I will give you my list of better pilots if you got back and watch the pilot" after which this thread will most likely be archived
Holy frick literallly fricking have a nice day you worthless homosexual
3 months ago
Anonymous
and thankfully you entertained me the entire time. go to bed, anon. i almost feel bad now.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Can't name a single fricking pilot. Not one. So sad, so sad. You lose, bro. Just the way it is You were born a loser, you lost this argument like a loser, you will die a loser.
the more the seasons go by, the less things happen each season. season 4 and 5 are the worst where they just introduce new characters and try to give them all some breathing room but everything just feels shallow in comparison
season fricking 4 just ends on a wet fart, i can't believe they genuinely thought that would be a good way to conclude and get people excited for the next season lel.
Tony was hungover as frick for the pie-o-mie episode.
amine described that while shooting the season four "Pie-O-My" episode, Gandolfini and several others went out one night in the gambling hotspot.
"I am at the hotel bar when the crew member closest to Jim asks if I want to go down to Atlantic City with Jim and a few others. It’s over an hour away. I decline," he wrote in the book. "The next morning I’m not surprised when Jim cannot be roused."
Kamine said Gandolfini finally arrived about four hours late to the set.
Power move. Frighten your enemies and stomp on it to release your stench and fill the room with your dominant dooty stink. >he’s not wearing prostitute makeup >tony and Phil might have gotten through to him
>I like the ones with some agent orange
CARMELLA CAN YOU PLEASE FILL THE SPIKE PIT
heheh
Do you think women find Tony's build sexy?
Are you a gay?
I'm just wondering because he has like 50 women swooning over him
Do they actually like this look?
get the frick out of here underage moron.
What is it about that question that makes you think I'm underage?
If you weren't you wouldn't ask such a question to begin with.
I just had a thought and I'm just curious, where else would I ask?
youre talking to a fat frick who thinks he is hot shit.
the answer is no. women dont like his fat frick useless build on its own. but he is le maffia boss or whatever (never wathced the show) so women will flock to where power and cash comes from
>women will flock to where power and cash comes from
Wrong, women flock to male violence or male popularity. They give two shits for power/cash, otherwise they'd all be jerking off to joe biden and elon musk
Women are solely attractive to men who act hypergamous and hypersexual, that are also either violent, or popular, or both. That´s it.
If you think women care about money/power, you are reading too much into their basic, instinctive simple minds. Money and power make civilizations - women don't care for that nerd shit
>Caring this much about women
incel stay incels
The girls I knew thought he was fricking ugly but charming, so probably like a dad
I'm built like Tony and yes, many women find it attractive. As the other anon said I think it reminds them of their dad.
In the earlier seasons, yeah kinda. But after Season 2 he really started bloating, to the point where he wheezed with every line.
they retconned his weight
You fought in the clone wars?
I love the smell of noci in the morning
Is this achievable natty? In awe at the size of this lad.
you outta know
500g cannoli cycle daily
I hear the mexicans were big into that
She brings certain modes of conflict resolution from all the way back in the old country, from the poverty of French Indochina, where all higher authority was corrupt
CLOSE THE BOMB BAY DOOOOOOR
Gulf of Tonkin. Whatever happened there.
this scene was filmed in the day time
>kids sneaking around
>scare them with the AK
>have things to say
>just b***h
Frick it.
So what, no fricking pho now?
CAWMELLA, CAN YOU PLEASE SHOOT THE DOOOOOOG?
Why was Carmella in Pandora?
>Tony had a fully automatic weapon and a hand grenade stashed in his house
he would've been fricked if his house got searched
he would be charged with crimes against deli meat
His house was searched multiple times you dumb frick wiener sucker.
yeah but they retconned his stash
No, they fricking didn't. It was all still there in the same spot from the pilot when carm gave the gun to Benny when he was guarding the house from the bear.
you think a pillar of his community doesn't have tax stamps?
the first episode is so shit. sometimes i'm shocked that people become fans of the show nowadays and don't give up during season 1
or during the first episode, where its just a mid tier Goodfellas ripoff
s1 is kino
but yeah, the pilot is very... derivative, to say the least
>the ducks flew off with muh penis.
such a great sequence
this show would have been 10/10 if it was always like this scene
You just reveal your own ignorance
they set it up like the fbi was going to have a major impact but they ended up barely showing up and even worked with Tony just because he asked
the FBI did have a terrible impact on tony's family, though: every single one of his capos flipped or interacted with the agency in some way, which led to their demise
The FBI needed tony producing a snuff video and handing it to them autographed to find something to arrest him for.
Are you moronic or do you just watch clips on youtube?
You can ve a fan of a movie eithout watche clipons youtube. moron
>eithout watche clipons
MOVEE EL AUTOMOBILEE
Stupid that they weren’t more suspicious when this happened. Not like there was a power battle going on
Judging by your previous comments, you didn't even watch the show.
kek
I skip it every time, it's borderline unwatchable
All reddit Black folk and zoomers deserve the rope.
I’m neither, and the first episode is complete shit.
your mom is complete shit homosexual
Sorry you’re seething so much that I said the first episode blows. It still does while still being my favorite show
You are borderline unwatchable
filtered.
were the doo wop and ak47 scenes really that bad
What do you think most television was like in 1999?
Doesn’t change the fact that I’m surprised that zoomers don’t give up during the first season.
Zoomers and 90s born queers are the only ones who cry about the pilot episode. Sure it had some goodfellas influences, but it establishes most of the themes and characters and was extremely high quality and revolutionary for its time. People who try and act like it's some unwatchable abomination deserve the rope.
Sure, you can always say context counts but Chase literally had no idea what he was making in the first season, and especially in the pilot. The actors also said they didn’t know if they were making a parody of Goodfellas or what. Nobody is saying the entire show is shit. Anons need to calm down.
>Chase literally had no idea what he was making in the first season,
He knew it was about a mobster who has a c**t of a mother and is struggling to deal with and balance the stress both his mob family and his home family cause him and who starts seeing a psychiatrist. The show goes deeply in to other stuff over the years but what's presented in the pilot is basically the premise for the show. The show branched off after livia died but they knew what they were trying to do. Chase said if the pilot wasn't picked up he would have tried to film another 30 minutes of footage and release it as a low budget movie.
It would be best if zoomers stayed away from the sopranos entirely. The whole thing goes over their heads, they're incapable of understanding nuance or the human condition.
I don't like that kind of talk. Now just stop it, it upsets me.
>season one was a saint, of newark!
Those anons
I KNOW SENIORS WHO ARE INSPIRED!
Livie could probably could teach me things in the bedroom. I'd frick her.
>I don't like that kind of cawk
She wouldn't touch you unless you could get free cold cuts.
Young Livia is hot as frick. The lady loooves her meat.
>it's like an image board at Captain Teeb's!
It's all comfy
I liked it and yet the show jhh84
ust gets better.
one of the best scenes in the show
gandolfini already knew who the character was in the pilot
>pure moods soundtrack
welcome to the late 90s
the show gets better late S1 but episode 1 is great, on rewatch im more bothered by massive genius a hit is a hit and the soccer pedophile ep
>shoots ep1 like martin scorsese badly
wow this is great!
Kundun! I liked it!
kek
Some homosexual earlier in the thread said the show hasnt worked out its humour until later, but it was hilarious from the start.
What's that poor motherless fricks name?
I don't wear that shit, I'm going to give them to the janny I let clean my board, poor prick wears a pair that's wrapped wrapped with duct tape.
That's nice.
It's Kunlun and I have made that reference about ten times.
>my name is Clarence
>bothered by massive genius a hit is a hit and the soccer pedophile ep
Filtered
Hit is a hit is the worst episode of the series. Worse than Christopher
Filtered by both
Christopher
That episode was great because everyone was all mad about something when it was brought up.
any episode that involves a celebrity is fricking cringe
I don't know, the Ben Kingsley one wasn't terrible to me.
Don’t forget the antichrist in human form: Father Tintola
The pilot is kino and I'm tired of people saying it's not. It's a very tragic episode and most of you can't see it.
>most of you can't see it.
It's just reddit Black folk and zoomers mouthing off like usual. The biggest homosexuals are the ones who say it's not canon. Don't tar the rest of us.
I'm not a fan of season 1 in general. Things don't get cooking until Richie and Janice show up.
What was the competition in 1999? Tired sitcoms, generic police procedurals, soap operas? The bar was extremely low and the potential was unmistakable
You're a fricking moron. Most pilots are very different from what the first season becomes. Getting a pilot made is insanely difficult so they have to craft it to make the network happy so they will put money behind an unknown property. A pilot is also usually of a lower budget than a typical episode of the TV show and the actors have figured out the characters yet because odds are this will be a one and done thing. All things considered, Sopranos is one of the best pilots ever made.
seethe more. it's a sloppy ass pilot made by someone that didn't give a frick about the show until it became popular. he admitted it himself. he didn't think it would get picked up, but would help him make movies. i love how every anon justifies the pilot being shit by saying
>all pilots were shitty back then!
>do you even realize how bad TV was then?
it's ok to love the show and say that some episodes are fricking terrible
>. it's a sloppy ass pilot made by someone that didn't give a frick about the show until it became popular.
Find me a few better pilots from before the Sopranos you fricking moron. Most are shit, but you can see the glimmer of hope in them. Sopranos pilot had that and more.
>he admitted it himself.
Irrelevant.
>>all pilots were shitty back then!
They just were. The networks dozens of pilots a year and picked what they thought was the best one. TV shows today don't have pilots, they just buy the entire 1st season right away. The only better pilot than the Sopranos is probably Mad Men and Breaking Bad, but those are post-Sopranos pilots when networks saw the potential that these quality shows could have.
>>do you even realize how bad TV was then?
TV back then was better than TV today by a fricking mile.
it's hilarious that you're seething so much and going up to bat for the pilot of The Sopranos, of all things. Why defend the pilot so hard when it's obvious the show has bad episodes through out its entire series?
I could list possibly 30 pilots better than The Sopranos
>Irrelevant
exactly, you don't want to take any points and admit nobody had any fricking clue what they were doing. we can both agree it was lightning in a bottle that it took off the way it did. Everyone here loves the show, but you don't have to be such an autist about an objectively sloppy episode.
>Why defend the pilot so hard when it's obvious the show has bad episodes through out its entire series?
It's not a bad episode, much better than shit like Christopher or In Camelot. And pilots are a different beast from the rest of the show you dumb homosexual. A good pilot is hard to come by. The Sopranos had a good pilot. Is it anywhere near the best ep? Not even close. But most pilots are much worse.
>I could list possibly 30 pilots better than The Sopranos
Get started then, homosexual.
>exactly, you don't want to take any points and admit nobody had any fricking clue what they were doing.
That's true of lots of tv show and movies you dumb moron. Sometimes everything just somehow clicks. The Sopranos pilot did that.
not worth responding to someone that can't coherently explain why something is so good and just seethes the entire time. you may possibly be the most autistic person i've encountered on here. I hope you aren't punching walls right now and get a good sleep, anon.
>not worth responding to
This coming from "I can name 30 better pilots than the Sopranos", yet can't even name fricking 1. Kys you worthless homosexual.
>can't coherently explain why something is so good
I literally did moron. The pilot compared to the greatness that was the Sopranos is mediocre at best, but as a pilot its a great start and a good ep. Of course you can prove me wrong by naming a few of these 30 better pilots.
losing your fricking MIND. keep refreshing the thread over this.
Yeah, I'm very calmly losing my mind as you make moronic claims like "herr derr I can name 30 better pilots", yet can't name a single 1.
>very calmly losing my mind
>autistically seethes in every post
really makes me want to enjoy this even more. if you respond three more times i'll give you the top 5.
seethes in every post
You're the moron that can't counter any logic with shit other than "I can name 30 better pilots", and yet you STILL can't name a single 1.
>if you respond three more times i'll give you the top 5.
You said 30. But ok, I'll take 5.
Post 1
Post 2
Post 3. Name your 5 pilots better than the Sopranos pilot.
Actually, let me guess you response
>"zomg you are seething so much lolololol"
And of course not name a single pilot.
Take it easy
I dunno I think you're selling it short. Let's say you lived to 50 without ever seeing the Sopranos, but you've seen hundreds upon hundreds of other shows. So at 50 years old, watching Sopranos for the first time you're going to see something you never saw in the other shows: a woman pointing a gun at her own daughter whom she thought was an intruder because she was trying to sneak back in from fricking her boyfriend. Sopranos is the only show ever to have that sort of scene. I'd definitely bet good money the pilot does just fine getting people interested.
You're trying to sell the first episode being good from something completely out of character? Like not even close to what Carm is?
Never been seen before doesn't mean good. It was literally the "parody of Goodfellas" that the actors thought they were doing
>You're trying to sell the first episode being good from something completely out of character? Like not even close to what Carm is?
A pilot is never perfect you fricking homosexual. Lots of shows post-pilot literally change actors and make other major changes. A character being "a little out of character from what they would become" is a very small complaint. Tony's voice changes radically from the first season to the last.
>It was literally the "parody of Goodfellas" that the actors thought they were doing
Just because they thought that doesn't mean it's what it was you fricking moron.
Still can't name better pilots?
Season 1 is literally the best season you fricking pleb.
1 > 2 > 6 > 4 > 5 >> 3
1 and 5 are the worst. horrible fricking taste
1 is better than 5 and 6.
Nostalgia has blinded you.
I don't think so. You're just one of those "newer = better" morons.
Never would say that. I like season 1, it's just at the bottom of much better seasons. Season 2 is almost just as old but way better than the majority of seasons.
>I like season 1, it's just at the bottom of much better seasons.
I would still take 1 over 5 and 6. Too much bullshit in later seasons with AJ, Meadow, Carmela spec house, among other things.
That's fair. 5 is pretty bad and a lot of it is because of the badly written Buscemi and Carm stuff. I really do like AJ in the later seasons while Meadow is basically a ghost later on
ofcourse, chase made the pilot, the show was better the less he had to do with it
Frick off the first episode was great.
>the first episode is so shit. sometimes i'm shocked that people become fans of the show nowadays and don't give up during season 1
I did lol took me over a decade to actually get past s1 especially ep1
>the first episode is so shit.
The first session with Tony and Melfi is pure kino in terms of acting. Frick you.
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Pilots are always the worst representation of the show
They're deliberately over the top to give everyone a quick insight as to who people are, and what is going on in their world.
The first season was pretty mediocre. Part of me always believed they intended for it to be a little lighthearted and goofy because otherwise people wouldn't have kept watching i.e. too depressing etc.
Maybe they just didn't really know where the frick they were going with it at the beginning.
Mobster with mommy issues vs the FBI
We’re kinda lucky Nancy died and melfi did 911 so they could get away from where that was headed
The show hadn’t found its humor yet
Why wouldn’t the guy tell Vito to stay down? Or why wouldn’t Vito realize that if he thought something was up that the worst thing he could possibly do is come up?
what did you go to gay school or something?
Timing is everything in comedy
>Was Vito gay?
"No!"
>then why suck the guy's wiener?
It was a joke
>why did he he make such a homossexual joke?
Because of the medication
>what does the medication have to do with it?
It changes a mans sense of humour
>was he still under the effects of the medication when he ran away?
Yes
>was living with the fireman a joke?
Yes
>why did he leave the fireman and the happiness he had found, even knowing Phil wanted his ass dead?
Because the effects of the medication wore off
>how did Vito sneak behind Jackie Jr and "nothing personalled" him?
Objects of large mass can collapse upon themselves, create black holes and teleport themselves in wormholes. Vito was a man of large mass
>did Vito also teleport the car and the driver?
Yes
>Could Vito have teleported himself to another place when his jokes were found out?
No, the medication made him lose too much mass
>how did Vito kill Jackie Jr with a toy gun?
He didn't, Jackie had a collapsed lung, as we can see by the snow already having blood when he falls, and Vito took the credit for it. Lots of luck
>why does the scene where Vito threatens Finn DeTrollio look like bad CGI?
Objects of large mass, such as Vito, can deform their surroundings due to excerting a stronger force of gravity
>was Finn really his arch nemesis?
Yes. Thin. Kind of tall. Looks like Daniel Day Lewis' son. Couldn't take a joke
>would Vito kill him in the Yankees' game?
No, he just wanted to make a new friend, and share some jokes
>why did Phil want Vito's death so much?
Because he was a closeted homosexual
>wasn't it all a joke?
No, he wasn't fat, so he wasn't on medication
would have been better if it was just for his blood pressure. MAY CAUSE DELIRIUM
She served with her brother Falco in the Star Fox wars
The pilot where they're all in the top floor of the bing discussing how to bust out the HMO guy, wish we saw that location/shot more
Pure kino
>discussing how to bust out the HMO guy
What? They were trying to make Jurassic Park a real dinosaur park.
We're Vietnamese, Tony!
>whats different about you
>give me 1000 (you)'s
>You-a-gotta reply on-a-you-a post!
>*smack*
stupid-a fricking thread
>someone used my drunk half assed ms paint oc
makesh me laugh
>I'm workin' on it Jun'
>sonic has blue FRICKING arms in this household, end of story!
>someone saved my oc
lmao I'm honored Anon. Nothing I've ever done has really caught on (I'm the guy who tried to start the whole keyed/locked fiasco).
Spare the homosexual brackets reddit Black person
Wow, this moron is still lurking. (It’s been awhile)
One thousand MORE?!
oh wow nice interior decorating in your place
This is fricking bullshit you're ripping me off for a reply!
>these two
UP IN DA CLUB
Woah, no Tone, it ain't what chu think. Just a lil poppers.. maybe some weird sexsh
Really cornered the stolen toaster over market
I must be loyle to my Capo
Lel, can't believe someone saved my OC I made drunkenly lmao even
CARMELLA CAN YOU TALK TO THE KEY GRIP ABOUT THE LIGHTING? CARMELLAAAAAA???!!!!
I SAID DANCE YOU ONE SHOE wienerSUCKA.
No VC aNo VC
mix it with the relish
So that’s why Tony is so afraid of rice
It wasn't converted, or at the very least Uncle Ben brand
Holy heckaroni, did Paulie summon a Stand AS A JOJO REFERENCE???
FRICKIN QUEERS
Someone on the crew must have experienced this because it's the closest to how a real apparition is. Still not accurate though.
You don't know anyone's experience, homosexual.
That's okay. For those who do know it's a very powerful scene that had a lot more going on than you realize.
>everyone's experience of the the supernatural is a carbon copy
Dumb frick.
>everyone's experience of the the supernatural is a carbon copy
You don't know that, not even the people who have had genuine experiences know exactly what happened.
>Whadda ya want from me?
those viet cong were talkin shit about her meat gravy
Who are all the characters that are shown taking a shit or say they have to take a shit? I feel like it’s a high number for one tv show
>Gigi died on the can,
>johnny took a prison shit,
>paulie took a wicked shit in italy
>sean gismonde pooping while burglaring
>tonys indian food
>aids IBS
>chris made numbah too in his pants
>Agent Harris rotten virus butthole
There was a lot of shitting in this show
Johnny took a shit at the Bing without a door on the stall. Vito had lots of farts when Tony was in the hospital but maybe no poopie.
he ate cat shit?
>tonys indian food
Thats so racist poop noises
indian food
>t. Artie
Phil said "I gotta try and take a shit" when his wife reminds him of Vito
did it fall from vitos butthole?
Did Carm take a poop when she was sleeping with AJ’s teacher?
Gigi
Sil
Tony
Vito Jr.
Johnny Sack
obviously the dinosaurs
>old fat guys in the hospital: the show
Was the "3 o'clock" message to Tony and Paulie meant to say
>Paulie, kill Tony from his 3 o'clock
I don't like that they retconned Pussy flipping to happen in 1995
There's no way he didn't produce anything meaningful for five years and only then start to feel really conflicted about it. Wtf was he doing between 1995 and season 2 of The Sopranos?
The most logical place for the flip to happen would be an episode or two before his back pain. He wouldn't have been able to spin his wheels for that long without anyone going to jail. Jimmy lasted one fricking week.
>retconned
Dumb frick
Aren't they building a rico case when it comes to the mafia? Usually takes a while.
You're a fricking idiot, the point is that he was always lying, it wasn't a retconn you underage fanook
These threads, well they just don't make em like that no more.
a contract killer who wears tap shoes is kind of moronic tbqh
Tony forcing Chris to quit Hollywood spared him the realization that not even CW would touch his crap
The roof was soft tar
Goodfellas is not as good as The Sopranos for the sole reason that the characters on The Sopranos are more fun.
Does he jack off on it?
The pilot has its growing pains but it isn't bad at all. This scene alone elevated it above pretty much anything else out that year.
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>Tony and his ducks
sex with melfi
Did the show ever explore the question of why Tony only had panic attacks every few years until 1998 when it was suddenly a weekly occurrence? This was when Jackie was still alive, his life hadn't changed much in a while.
Anxiety and depression comes in waves. Sometimes the treatment works or something traumatic will happen and put you back at square one. Tony would always think he’s fine and stop taking his meds too
maybe because that's when he became boss. if there are any flies on you, they're paying rent
Probably because the current acting boss at that time was hospitalized and he was in a position of higher responsibility. Unaddressed, but he was most definetly stressed about what he would need to do about his uncle and still hasn't formulated the puppet capo scheme.
Put the pieces together
>mid life crisis
>mixed relationship with kids and wife
>mother getting more and more difficult as she gets older
>taking on more work as Jackie got sick
>Someday soon, you're gonna have families of your own and if you're lucky, you'll remember the little moments like this that were good.
This is the most depressing line of the show and imo the entire theme of it. Tony knows his life sucks and is going to get worse every day until he dies and cherishes those little sparks of happiness that he knows are fleeting.
That's what the ducks were to Tony, and that's why the panic attacks started when they flew off. Times like that, times that were good, were getting harder to come by.
Did he ever get his penis back from the ducks?
Sex with Carm
shes literally me
I want to FRICK (you)
luk at da focking breasts mang che's bewtiful
Sexiest woman in the Sopranos? For me it's Angie
Gloria Trillo
Svetlana
Objectively? The character that Sarah Shahi played. Of all the women that appeared semi regularly? For me it's Rosie Aprille.
Paulie getting away with killing the c**ty old woman was one of the most unbelievable shit that happened in the show
Why?
A resident of a fancy nursery home got killed and you think that wouldn't cause a major investigation?
She died of natural causes
Didn't he smother her with a pillow? Wouldn't they think she just had a stroke or a heart attack?
asphyxia due to smothering, they can also easily find traces of the pillow. It's an egregious case of getting away because plot says so
Makes sense. But would they do an autopsy? A woman that old if they didn't suspect any foul play.
it would be major negligence if they didn't do an autopsy
>find traces of the pillow
moron. She hadn't moved to the retirement community yet, and no one would think an 80 something year old woman dropping dead is remotely suspicious.
you're the fricking moron if you think standard autopsy procedure doesn't exist, especially when she died under the nursery home's care.
She was a malignant c**t
>carm catches meadow sneaking out
>it ain't me starts playing
>watching a Sopranos episode
>It Ain't Me starts playing
-Main character's life is centered around his career, has deep-seated identity issues.
-Main character had an extremely cold and uncaring mother/mother-figure
-Main character's job is a boy's club where women are secondary figures
-Main character begins series in middle management and ascends to apex power by the last seasons
-Main character becomes increasingly depressed and hopeless as the series goes on
-Main character cheats on his blonde wife by constantly having not-so-secret affairs with women of a certain type (usually dark hair, mysterious, sad, moneyed.) Main character gets divorced/separated from her later in the series.
-Main character has an extremely turbulent and passionate affair with a dark-haired, swarthy woman who later dies and the main character feels a lot of regret over the way their relationship ended
-Main character confides in a middle-aged blonde woman with a bad leg
-Main character has a beautiful house and possessions envied by others
-Main character goes out west and does drugs in the final season, finds serenity
OH JEEZ TONY, NOW YOU BRING THE VIETCONG TO OUR HOME
Moltisanti says this is a good war movie? They didn't have flat tops above the 38th parallel!
Why was she a lawyer in New York? Did Tone' know? You think she's working with the Feds?
she looks pretty good here
She pops up a few times as a defense lawyer in some of the mid-early seasons of law and order.
wasn't Chrissy on Law and Order too?
He's a detective at the end if the 14th episode for like 5 episodes.
He's in an earlier episode as a murderer, he's like a mentally disturbed limo driver that has a mental dilusion that he's in a relationship with a supermodel.
That happens alot, the guy that plays Pussy is in a bunch of episodes of a bunch of different people with different roles, like one he's just a guy the police interview to get a piece of information, then he's in the mob, then he's in the mob, then he's like in the mob, and finally I think he plays a character that's in the mob.
Pussy has range
Ayy it's Carmine's lawyer.
David Chase tried to hire Stevie Van Zandt as Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series). Then he tried to hire Ray Liotta and Brocco as Tony and Carm for his Goodfellas ripoff.. The dude was phoning this shit in until it somehow blew up.
>Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series).
Are you fricking moronic? Gandolfini was pitch fricking perfect.
>The dude was phoning this shit in until it somehow blew up.
It blew up mid season 1 you fricking tard.
he meant van zandt ya frickin putz
your insults don't mean OOGATZ to me bud
>he meant van zandt ya frickin putz
Then don't put the () after "Tony". Holy frick.
not his fault you have the reading comprehension of jackie jr.
>not his fault you have the reading comprehension of jackie jr.
More like he has the writing skills of Jackie Jr. His sentence was poorly structured.
>Stevie Van Zandt as Tony (possibly the worst actor of the entire series)
Tony wasn't the actor. Pretty safe to say that it's easy to know what I was talking about, but nice try.
It should have been:
"Stevie Van Zandt, possibly the worst actor of the series, as Tony."
Not my fault you're a fricking moron.
kek
just admit that you're either hammered or projecting this "moron" thing that you've said 900 times.
Literally double posting lol. My sentence was properly structured. Yours was a fricking mess. Putting a () after the fricking characters name and not the actor as if "Tony" is the (worst actor in the show).
take the L drukanon
next thing it'll be poppers and weird sex with you
Double posting again. Learned to properly express a thought in the written form, dummy.
second midol poster wasn't me but he did make me laugh. i actually like you too, anon. you're hilarious
the reading comp of jackie jr. and the intellect of paulie
take a midol
holy frick, take your meds anon. it's obviously nobody thought Gandolfini was the worst actor in the series
>blew up mid season 1
EXACTLY. that's when he started to take it seriously. he fired most of the writing crew and hired new ones for season 2. I just imagine you rocking back and forth screeching
>holy frick, take your meds anon. it's obviously nobody thought Gandolfini was the worst actor in the series
Then don't write your sentences that way. You still can't name better pilots lol.
>EXACTLY. that's when he started to take it seriously. he fired most of the writing crew and hired new ones for season 2. I just imagine you rocking back and forth screeching
What's the problem? You're making it seem like he ignored the show until it "blew up" in season 4. Once it got into a groove in mid season 1, he took it more seriously. Very common from a producer/writer working on multiple projects.
>imagine you rocking back and forth screeching
Still can't name better pilots. I even gave you your 3 replies lololol
I hope I wake up tomorrow and you're still bumping this thread until I give you the list of pilots. I have it written, if you really want it?
>I hope I wake up tomorrow and you're still bumping this thread until I give you the list of pilots. I have it written, if you really want it?
Yes, give it now. If not, I will accept it as your defeat.
>inb4 "herr derr seethe"
I promise you I will give you the list if you go back and watch the pilot episode right now. Lights off, head phones on. Explain to me in detail why it's such a good pilot. Why it speaks to you in such a way that nobody could ever criticize. I promise I'll be here waiting when you're done.
>I promise you I will give you the list if you go back and watch the pilot episode right now
No. I've seen it many, many times. You lose.
>Explain to me in detail why it's such a good pilot.
I did many times. You lose.
Here's the timeline
>"I can name 30 better pilots"
>"I will name 5 better pilots"
>"I will name all 5 of them if you reply 3 times"
>"I will give you my list of better pilots if you got back and watch the pilot" after which this thread will most likely be archived
Holy frick literallly fricking have a nice day you worthless homosexual
and thankfully you entertained me the entire time. go to bed, anon. i almost feel bad now.
Can't name a single fricking pilot. Not one. So sad, so sad. You lose, bro. Just the way it is You were born a loser, you lost this argument like a loser, you will die a loser.
It's da FLAK JACKET!
I think that's when she was lost in the Jurassic Park.
How's that weight loss coming along anon?
how about that pricks face when he saw the gyatt?
i shed shum pulp
Consider suicide
what the frick? why am i on there?
lel
Man I wish I had a wife like Carm
It's Carmela moron
>Michael Madsen tried to get cast in the Sopranos multiple times
>Chase rejected him because he was from Chicago and not NY
lmao
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Livia was supposed to die in season 1. How do you think she would have gone out?
Best thread on tv
the more the seasons go by, the less things happen each season. season 4 and 5 are the worst where they just introduce new characters and try to give them all some breathing room but everything just feels shallow in comparison
season fricking 4 just ends on a wet fart, i can't believe they genuinely thought that would be a good way to conclude and get people excited for the next season lel.
Whitecaps is literally one of the best episodes in the entire show and won multiple awards. tf are you talking about?
Go watch Breaking Bad instead
Tony was hungover as frick for the pie-o-mie episode.
amine described that while shooting the season four "Pie-O-My" episode, Gandolfini and several others went out one night in the gambling hotspot.
"I am at the hotel bar when the crew member closest to Jim asks if I want to go down to Atlantic City with Jim and a few others. It’s over an hour away. I decline," he wrote in the book. "The next morning I’m not surprised when Jim cannot be roused."
Kamine said Gandolfini finally arrived about four hours late to the set.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sopranos-star-james-gandolfini-swam-093053060.html
>watch those waves chrissy
Word tah the wise:
REMEMBAH THE GULF OF TONKIN.
>OH CORRADO
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Why did Vito Jr. shit in the shower?
Power move. Frighten your enemies and stomp on it to release your stench and fill the room with your dominant dooty stink.
>he’s not wearing prostitute makeup
>tony and Phil might have gotten through to him
And then he gets kidnapped to military school after. Sick frick.