Why would they need to test long term effects of space travel when they have robots that could do long term space travel instead and can just put your genetic material with the robot and wait to reproduce until you are at your destination.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>why not just grow new people somewhere else
Fricking idiot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So you don't know any reason why it would ever make more sense to put the people in space rather than the robots?
11 months ago
Anonymous
They have people in space to test the long term consequences. You can't do that with a robot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You don't need to do that, there is no reason for people to be exposed to the dangers of space long term other than to just torture them. >Why don't we just smash everyone's head with a chandelier to test the long term consequence of having a chandelier where your head should be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're a fricking idiot
11 months ago
Anonymous
How am I to compete with a mensa level dissertation such as this from someone who totally didn't assume it was in reference in our reality rather than a reality with surrogates?
The replicas were vaporwave sold to them before they left for the mission. They don't transport their soul to a replica, they just enter virtual reality where they think they do. This was the only way the space Corp could get people to leave everything behind.
>they just enter virtual reality where they think they do.
So why not just control the entire ship with virtual reality, why do you need robots in the human form factor at all?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lots of things can malfunction with machines or power. I don't know what you mean but control with virtual reality? You mean ai? The tech wasn't there yet.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Lots of things can malfunction with machines or power.
Lots of things can malfunction with people or biology and people/biology is much more susceptible radiation damage than machines purpose designed for the journey.
> I don't know what you mean but control with virtual reality?
I mean use the same virtual reality tech so people can take control of a ship instead of taking control of a human body like how not all video games are about controlling people, but many are about controlling cars or other machines.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The tech didn't actually exist to control things from a distance instantaneously whether it was a replica or a spaceship. It was vaporwave.
>lots of things can malfunction with humans too
Yes, but the point is you have both as a backup, machines and biology. Humans to fix machines if there is an issue. Machines to heal humans if there is an issue.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>vaporwave
I think I understand your moronic point now since I didn't realize it was based on you not knowing the difference between vaporware and vaporwave at first, but why would they simulate the families being murdered in virtual reality?
At that point, you might as well argue that they aren't even in space at all, some company is just putting people in holes together and trying to see how easy it would be to get them to murder each other.
>Humans to fix machines if there is an issue.
That is why you just have humans from mission control monitoring the ship and logging in some VR to do all the systems checks and equipment diagnosis.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I know it's vaporware but I like the term vaporwave more.
>kill families
The vr doesn't choose what happens, think of it more akin to lucid dreaming. It's part of the real experiment as mentioned at the start, to see the effects of space travel on the human body and mind. They wanted to see if with this "VR" they could stay sane but it was a failed experiment.
>mission control
Sometimes you physically need a body to tweak things. Also as mentioned the time delay from mission control to the ship might be an issue.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They wanted to see if with this "VR" they could stay sane but it was a failed experiment.
What the frick are you talking about?
It was the "VR vaporwave" that drove them insane in this scenario, who did control the cult if not the VR and if it was just a lucid dream, why couldn't they just reverse the consequences of killing off the family and pretend like it never happened for his sanity?
Your theory is moronic.
>Also as mentioned the time delay from mission control to the ship
There was no time delay, you are making that shit up just like you are making up some bullshit about vaporware being related to vaporwave.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He would still go insane if they brought his family back to life "wait you mean I haven't been spending time with them through a replica? It's been entirely in my mind/vr?".
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He would still go insane
No he wouldn't, he would assume it was a dream, be happy that he still had his loving family, and he would appreciate them more for it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They probably never expected him to "make" something so horrible happen to himself. It's probably part of the experiment. The machine side can't force him to believe it didn't happen, he can't believe it himself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, your theory is moronic, they would have noticed if it took months to communicate with mission control, but they could interact with the robots instantly. Also, he wouldn't have known what the other guy was imagining, so there would have been no coherency between the experiences when they used pinkman's robot since the drawing he made in the ship would have looked nothing like pinkman's house, it would have been based on the other guy's imagination instead.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Were they communicating with mission control? Evidence? Maybe that had "malfunctioned" only a short time after leaving earth.
True, I guess the machine does influence their "VR" lucid dreams somewhat to keep the two of theirs set in the same "reality"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Were they communicating with mission control? Evidence?
Yes, Pinkman mentioned talking to them several times to his wife and they specifically had to ask mission control for permission to let the other guy use his robot plus they had calls on earth where they found out about what happened to the other guy's family.
>True, I guess the machine does influence their "VR" lucid dream
No, your whole theory is moronic and based on your inability to pay attention to details or understand what you watched.
11 months ago
Anonymous
What makes you think they were talking to mission control from the ship? All of those conversations could have been done over the phone by the replica?
11 months ago
Anonymous
What makes you think your theory isn't moronic, when I am just going by what was shown and what the characters said and did, they specifically said they were reporting physicals to mission control, they specifically said they had to ask mission control for thing, and a mission would require contacting mission control regularly, you don't think they would notice if the replica told mission control something over the phone, but they got back on the ship and realized mission control never got the message?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>What makes you think they were talking to mission control from the ship?
He was able to see his own funeral, why the frick would you think they don't have a communications channel
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its because he is trying to justify a moronic theory that makes no sense unless you completely ignore what actually happened on screen.
If the replicas fail or malfunction on Earth, no problem, just have a team fix them there or abandon them. If they fail in space, that's trillions of dollars wasted, they can't even collect/measure anything if the ship manages to survive the trip without any accidents.
I liked this episode even though there's plot holes like why not have the replicas go to space instead
It's like in Lord of the rings, why they didn't just fly those birds to mount doom and throw the ring in the lava. Just because one thing about it doesn't make sense, doesn't mean it's bad
If the replicas fail or malfunction on Earth, no problem, just have a team fix them there or abandon them. If they fail in space, that's trillions of dollars wasted, they can't even collect/measure anything if the ship manages to survive the trip without any accidents.
they couldn't even have a subtle hint that maybe it was paint on the wall? that's a bit trite but it would make up for how fricking flat the ending is.
>Why'd he do it bros?
Well 2 people are needed, unless he constructs a remote control for the door. So if he did that he could just kill the other guy and have some sweet years creeping on the family.
But since he is moronic and would never be able to create a remote control, he did the second best thing. He raped the wife, killed her, then raped her again.
He don't want to frick up the mission himself directly, so now it is on Pinkman.
He will just suicide right before the end of the mission anyway and if Pinkman decides to kill him to early - he will just get a sweet release from life.
>two astronauts cannot survive being together in space for six years >I've been alone my entire life
Seems fake. Are normies like this? Some people have never had sex and don't go insane.
lazy writing
>We have astronauts in space with robot bodies but we can't afford to hire full time security to protect their families and our proprietary space tech
Wait why not have the robot bodies be in space while the humans are on earth
>every thread
have a nice day moron.
So what is the best answer from all the other threads?
Nothing that justified it. It's just a fat plot hole that exists as a contrivance to make the story happen.
They were testing the long term effects of space travel on the human body.
Why would they need to test long term effects of space travel when they have robots that could do long term space travel instead and can just put your genetic material with the robot and wait to reproduce until you are at your destination.
>why not just grow new people somewhere else
Fricking idiot.
So you don't know any reason why it would ever make more sense to put the people in space rather than the robots?
They have people in space to test the long term consequences. You can't do that with a robot.
You don't need to do that, there is no reason for people to be exposed to the dangers of space long term other than to just torture them.
>Why don't we just smash everyone's head with a chandelier to test the long term consequence of having a chandelier where your head should be.
You're a fricking idiot
How am I to compete with a mensa level dissertation such as this from someone who totally didn't assume it was in reference in our reality rather than a reality with surrogates?
The replicas were vaporwave sold to them before they left for the mission. They don't transport their soul to a replica, they just enter virtual reality where they think they do. This was the only way the space Corp could get people to leave everything behind.
>they just enter virtual reality where they think they do.
So why not just control the entire ship with virtual reality, why do you need robots in the human form factor at all?
Lots of things can malfunction with machines or power. I don't know what you mean but control with virtual reality? You mean ai? The tech wasn't there yet.
>Lots of things can malfunction with machines or power.
Lots of things can malfunction with people or biology and people/biology is much more susceptible radiation damage than machines purpose designed for the journey.
> I don't know what you mean but control with virtual reality?
I mean use the same virtual reality tech so people can take control of a ship instead of taking control of a human body like how not all video games are about controlling people, but many are about controlling cars or other machines.
The tech didn't actually exist to control things from a distance instantaneously whether it was a replica or a spaceship. It was vaporwave.
>lots of things can malfunction with humans too
Yes, but the point is you have both as a backup, machines and biology. Humans to fix machines if there is an issue. Machines to heal humans if there is an issue.
>vaporwave
I think I understand your moronic point now since I didn't realize it was based on you not knowing the difference between vaporware and vaporwave at first, but why would they simulate the families being murdered in virtual reality?
At that point, you might as well argue that they aren't even in space at all, some company is just putting people in holes together and trying to see how easy it would be to get them to murder each other.
>Humans to fix machines if there is an issue.
That is why you just have humans from mission control monitoring the ship and logging in some VR to do all the systems checks and equipment diagnosis.
I know it's vaporware but I like the term vaporwave more.
>kill families
The vr doesn't choose what happens, think of it more akin to lucid dreaming. It's part of the real experiment as mentioned at the start, to see the effects of space travel on the human body and mind. They wanted to see if with this "VR" they could stay sane but it was a failed experiment.
>mission control
Sometimes you physically need a body to tweak things. Also as mentioned the time delay from mission control to the ship might be an issue.
>They wanted to see if with this "VR" they could stay sane but it was a failed experiment.
What the frick are you talking about?
It was the "VR vaporwave" that drove them insane in this scenario, who did control the cult if not the VR and if it was just a lucid dream, why couldn't they just reverse the consequences of killing off the family and pretend like it never happened for his sanity?
Your theory is moronic.
>Also as mentioned the time delay from mission control to the ship
There was no time delay, you are making that shit up just like you are making up some bullshit about vaporware being related to vaporwave.
He would still go insane if they brought his family back to life "wait you mean I haven't been spending time with them through a replica? It's been entirely in my mind/vr?".
>He would still go insane
No he wouldn't, he would assume it was a dream, be happy that he still had his loving family, and he would appreciate them more for it.
They probably never expected him to "make" something so horrible happen to himself. It's probably part of the experiment. The machine side can't force him to believe it didn't happen, he can't believe it himself.
No, your theory is moronic, they would have noticed if it took months to communicate with mission control, but they could interact with the robots instantly. Also, he wouldn't have known what the other guy was imagining, so there would have been no coherency between the experiences when they used pinkman's robot since the drawing he made in the ship would have looked nothing like pinkman's house, it would have been based on the other guy's imagination instead.
Were they communicating with mission control? Evidence? Maybe that had "malfunctioned" only a short time after leaving earth.
True, I guess the machine does influence their "VR" lucid dreams somewhat to keep the two of theirs set in the same "reality"
>Were they communicating with mission control? Evidence?
Yes, Pinkman mentioned talking to them several times to his wife and they specifically had to ask mission control for permission to let the other guy use his robot plus they had calls on earth where they found out about what happened to the other guy's family.
>True, I guess the machine does influence their "VR" lucid dream
No, your whole theory is moronic and based on your inability to pay attention to details or understand what you watched.
What makes you think they were talking to mission control from the ship? All of those conversations could have been done over the phone by the replica?
What makes you think your theory isn't moronic, when I am just going by what was shown and what the characters said and did, they specifically said they were reporting physicals to mission control, they specifically said they had to ask mission control for thing, and a mission would require contacting mission control regularly, you don't think they would notice if the replica told mission control something over the phone, but they got back on the ship and realized mission control never got the message?
>What makes you think they were talking to mission control from the ship?
He was able to see his own funeral, why the frick would you think they don't have a communications channel
Its because he is trying to justify a moronic theory that makes no sense unless you completely ignore what actually happened on screen.
Why is it better to lose trillions of dollars and two astronauts lives if something goes wrong rather than just the ship?
This was just a twist on the gay black man video game episode
Money I suppose, that and he hasn’t had a major role in a while. Shame though, he was good in Hollywood Homocide and Lucky Number Slevin.
why didn't he just call the cops from the spaceship while he was tied up?
Why want he strong enough to fight off some malnourished hippies with a bat?
that was explained in the first scene with Jessie chopping wood. the replicas aren't as physically capable as humans
Thanks I missed this. I figured he was just weak.
>replicas are clearly made of metal
>but can be cut through with a kitchen knife like butter
nope lost me there
>fingers girl for maximum pleasure applying full pressure
>too weak to fight back against basic hippies
Bros you said that black mirror was accurate
I liked this episode even though there's plot holes like why not have the replicas go to space instead
It's like in Lord of the rings, why they didn't just fly those birds to mount doom and throw the ring in the lava. Just because one thing about it doesn't make sense, doesn't mean it's bad
If the replicas fail or malfunction on Earth, no problem, just have a team fix them there or abandon them. If they fail in space, that's trillions of dollars wasted, they can't even collect/measure anything if the ship manages to survive the trip without any accidents.
>That's my wife, MINE, ONLY ME, never YOU. I own her. Every bit of her. Her mind, body, soul, EVERYTHING. SHE IS MINE.
>now here's my chip. I trust you not to do anything sneaky with it
they couldn't even have a subtle hint that maybe it was paint on the wall? that's a bit trite but it would make up for how fricking flat the ending is.
>Why'd he do it bros?
Well 2 people are needed, unless he constructs a remote control for the door. So if he did that he could just kill the other guy and have some sweet years creeping on the family.
But since he is moronic and would never be able to create a remote control, he did the second best thing. He raped the wife, killed her, then raped her again.
He don't want to frick up the mission himself directly, so now it is on Pinkman.
He will just suicide right before the end of the mission anyway and if Pinkman decides to kill him to early - he will just get a sweet release from life.
Pinkman could torture him rip his fingernails off and castrate him
You wouldn't get it.
I saw that picture 4 or 5 times before I watched the episode and I swear the fact that it was Josh Hartnett never even occurred to me.
>FIND OUT WHERE YOU ARE
Why did this go nowhere?
Yeah that was a weird hook. I was expecting something like they're really dead! Or earth was destroyed or it's all a simulation of a space mission.
>two astronauts cannot survive being together in space for six years
>I've been alone my entire life
Seems fake. Are normies like this? Some people have never had sex and don't go insane.
They were doing pretty fine until one got mind broke by not-Charles Manson murdering his family in front of him.
Nothing left to lose, wanted to at least feel like someone else could relate to him.
What a god awful season
cause the writers wanted him to