this film just doesn't connect. Pacing is unnaturally fast, the jokes aren't funny, drama is cliched, story is boring, dialogue is clumsy, the main characters don't awake empathy, etc. If you haven't watched this, keep it that way
Here comes the shark moron with all the adjectives again. I don't get it, for someone who autistically reads all the fringe critic reviews that agree with your shit opinion why do you just regurgitate a thesaurus when on your own? They might be shit critics too but one would think obsessing over every word they type would impart more than just the most surface level takes.
Probably because they weren't the focus. I swear, the only people who don't like this movie are the immature idiots who think movies are to only be viewed with a crowd of friends while you crack jokes, throw popcorn at each other, and generally annoy everyone else.
There is no need for excuses because you can't give one single argument on why this movie is bad, what do you want us to do post the parts of the script we like?
the peawiener was a childlish and unsympathetic edgelord with a lame backstory. Gary Oldman wasn't an original choice either. He has played animated villains before (Quest for Camelot, Planet 51)
Who cares if an actor did voices in an animated movie before? Just like normal movies, actors usually have a collection and good and bad performances. Oldman at his core is a good actor and he gave a good performance for KFP2 compared to those previous movies, probably because he actually had some good direction and a decent script to work with compared to low budget trash like Planet 51.
>Lord Shen! I saw a panda! >a panda!? >a kung fu warrior... he fought like a demon! Big and furry... soft and squishy... kinda plush and cuddly
>my fist hungers for justice (stomach growl) That was my... fist
>tell me what happened that night! >what night? >thatnight! >ahhh...thatnight >yes!... We're talking about the same night, right?
>and then you'll be stopped... by the unstoppable weapon! >nothing's unstoppable except formewhen I'm stoppingyoufrom tellingmesomething's unstoppable!
>i hope this turns out better than your plan to cook rice in your stomach by eating it raw and then drinking boiling water... >this plan is nothing like that plan
>i threw up a little on the third floor, someone might want to clean that up. Is there some sort of evil janitor or somethin'?
>look at him! A lifetime to plot his revenge and he comes to me on his knees! >hey, wait, I did not have alifetime... we only heard about Master Thundering Rhino a few days ago, and we came to avenge him! >you've come to avenge nothing else? >yeah, all those pots and pans you stole- we're going to want those back!
>the only reason you're still alive is because i find your stupidity... mildly amusing >thank you, but i find your evilness extremely annoying? >who do you think you are, panda? >who do you think i am, peawiener?
>i know, dad. I just have so many questions. Like how did i ever fit in this tiny basket? Why didn't i like pants? And who am i?
>(Po's hand catches fire and he puts in his mouth instead of the lake around him)
>spread out, search everywhere! >what about over there? >is there a part of everywhere? >uh... i guess >then search there!
this film is consistently unfunny
>every master must find his path to inner peace. Some choose to meditate for 50 years in a cave just like this. Without the slightest taste of food or water >(Po' stomach growls) or? >some find it through pain and suffering as I did. Po, the day you were chosen as Dragon Warrior... was the worst day of my life. By far. Nothing else came close. It was the worst, most painful mind-destroying, horrible, moment... >okay. >...I have ever experienced. But once I realized the problem was not you, but within me, I found inner peace
unfunny joke and an out of character moment for Shifu. You'd think the day his adopted son Tai Lung went on a rampage through China and attacked him would be the worst one
Well, I saw it as sort of a culmination as the day Tai Lung betrayed him. Shifu felt like he finally had a chance to set things right and atone for creating a monster by ruining his adopted son's life, only to find that the title of Dragon Warrior was gonna go to a fat panda who was literally chosen just by accident. The absolute despair he felt over that was all the pain he felt over Tai Lung plus the pain of feeling like he had failed yet again and his one chance for redemption had been robbed from him, dooming him to feeling the guilt and shame he had been feeling for the past two decades for the rest of his life.
directors of first movie, John Stevenson and Mark Osborne, didn't return for this one in any way. Not even as executive producers or consultants. They wanted nothing to do with this cash grab
>peawiener heir to a throne overhears of a prophecy that he'll be defeated by a "warrior from black and white" if he continues his evil ways. Assuming it refers to a panda, he and his army destroy a nearby village of pandas by setting it on fire and murdering everyone. Peawiener' parents banish him from kingdom, so he swears revenge and spends the next 30 years stealing metal and building fireworks cannons to reclaim the throne, conquer China and destroy kung fu
weak backstory
>long ago, in ancient china, the peawieners ruled over Gongmen City. They brought great joy and prosperity to the city, for they had invented fireworks. But their son, Lord Shen, saw darker power in the fireworks. What had brought color and joy could also bring darkness and destruction. Shen's troubled parents consulted a soothsayer. She foretold that if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white. The young lord set out to change his fate, but what he did next... only sealed it. Shen returned to his parents full of pride, but in their faces, he only saw horror. He was banished from the city forever. But Shen swore revenge. Someday he would return, and all of china would bow at his feet
one of the most half assed opening narrations in any movie
the peawiener never once says Po's name (unlike Tai Lung). He wasn't even aware that Po is the dragon warrior, only fearing him because he is a panda. He never mentions Shifu or Oogway either... as a matter of fact, he doesn't say the name of anyone in the film (i doubt the soothsayer's name is soothsayer)
he is an butthole. I don't like villains who treat their subordinates (the wolves and gorillas in his case) without a hint of respect or care. He is also petty, like when he disrespects his late father by throwing away his throne from the window
>(after tossing away his father's throne out of a window, Shen has the gorillas put the cannon where the throne was) >a little to the left >uh, but it's so heavy, master! >thirty years I've waited for this moment. Everything must be exactly how I envisioned it... and I envisioned it a little to the left >(gorillas adjust the cannon) >perfect. With the weapon by my side... ah, a little bit more (cannon is adjusted again)... with the weapon by my side, all of china will bow before me
he literally acts
he is an butthole. I don't like villains who treat their subordinates (the wolves and gorillas in his case) without a hint of respect or care. He is also petty, like when he disrespects his late father by throwing away his throne from the window
he is an butthole. I don't like villains who treat their subordinates (the wolves and gorillas in his case) without a hint of respect or care. He is also petty, like when he disrespects his late father by throwing away his throne from the window
Kung Fu Panda and Arthur & the Minimoys should've never gotten sequels. First installments are quite good, but what came after is a perfect example of sequelitis. Cars also shouldn't have gotten sequels, but merchandise sales were so high that they were kinda inevitable
>Panda 1 : directed by John Stevenson and Mark Osborne, with a story by Cyrus Voris and Ethan Reiff >Arthur 1 : screenplay co written by Celine Garcia
they didn't come back for the sequels and it shows
There is nothing in either film to suggest that Kung Fu Panda and Shark Tale can't coexist in the same universe. In fact for all we know there could be masters of undersea styles of kung fu
/co/'s KFP-boner is fricking moronic. The first one was just the usual "Student learns secret technique and becomes the ultimate Kung-Fu badass" thing that Drunken Master and countless other movies have done better, with an element of the usual "Loser learns to fit in" thrown in. There are seven other kung-fu masters--Shifu, Oogway, and the Furious Five--trying to defeat the villain, and none of them amounts to shit at the end of the day. A more accurate title would've been "Kung-Fu Movie-By-Numbers".
KFP 2 is even worse, being basically a rehash of the first movie with Po mastering another secret technique (Inner Peace) to defeat another vaguely tragic villain. Here though, the "tragic villain" schtick is even stupider since Shen is a remorseless, genocidal psychopath who even murders his own henchmen. Shen's master plan ("I'll invade all of China with seven ships!") is moronic, the new side characters are just as useless as the old ones, and the whole movie is basically just a long Wile E. Coyote episode where the protagonists repeatedly try and fail to stop Shen over and over until Po wins.
The third one is so bad I had to watch it in snatches. >LE FUNNY PANDAS XD
The villain is a dull non-entity, though at least he doesn't have a whiny backstory like the first two. The side characters are just as useless as ever, and I don't really know how Po learning to accept who he is differs all that much from the "Inner Peace" he achieved in KFP2.
>(wolf lifts a sheep by the collar) >this rice is raw! >but you stole all my metal pots for Lord Shen! >either you cook my rice, or I cook you! >(Furious Five are watching the scene) Po, do something! >how am I supposed to help her cook rice without getting caught?
they made Po too much of an idiot in 2. He wasn't quite like this in 1
still, fricking dogs doesn't justify it tho
>fricking dogs
What?
cringe take
who?
>shitty eceleb opinion that i parrot is this thing
it's an 81 mins waste of time
>letting an eceleb decide your opinion
this film just doesn't connect. Pacing is unnaturally fast, the jokes aren't funny, drama is cliched, story is boring, dialogue is clumsy, the main characters don't awake empathy, etc. If you haven't watched this, keep it that way
Here comes the shark moron with all the adjectives again. I don't get it, for someone who autistically reads all the fringe critic reviews that agree with your shit opinion why do you just regurgitate a thesaurus when on your own? They might be shit critics too but one would think obsessing over every word they type would impart more than just the most surface level takes.
You are just trying to push your opinion as a fact even though you are unable to give one actual example of it being bad
You don't think listing aspects of a movie and pairing it with an adjective isn't criticism?
Yes. Give examples of moments and scenes from the movie itself that demonstrate these criticisms.
>the main characters don't awake empathy
What?
IDK I remember liking the peawiener he was funny.
Why, because it wasn't FUNNY? Grow up, it was meant as a more serious entry in the series.
>fat panda fighting kung fu
>it's not funny
Sinful
it's chock full of comedy and it's awful. The jokes aren't funny or even amusing
Probably because they weren't the focus. I swear, the only people who don't like this movie are the immature idiots who think movies are to only be viewed with a crowd of friends while you crack jokes, throw popcorn at each other, and generally annoy everyone else.
>focus
If you tell a joke your aim is a laugh, no matter whatever mental gymnastics you want to excuse it this movie failed at that.
There is no need for excuses because you can't give one single argument on why this movie is bad, what do you want us to do post the parts of the script we like?
No point in arguing with him, sharkgay is a certified moron and "nu-uh, I'm right!" is the best he can respond.
but they are funny and amusing
wtf homie? i don't remember the jokes but i remember laughing a couple of times
the peawiener was a childlish and unsympathetic edgelord with a lame backstory. Gary Oldman wasn't an original choice either. He has played animated villains before (Quest for Camelot, Planet 51)
Who cares if an actor did voices in an animated movie before? Just like normal movies, actors usually have a collection and good and bad performances. Oldman at his core is a good actor and he gave a good performance for KFP2 compared to those previous movies, probably because he actually had some good direction and a decent script to work with compared to low budget trash like Planet 51.
Shit YouTuber and shit opinion
>Lord Shen! I saw a panda!
>a panda!?
>a kung fu warrior... he fought like a demon! Big and furry... soft and squishy... kinda plush and cuddly
>my fist hungers for justice (stomach growl) That was my... fist
>tell me what happened that night!
>what night?
>thatnight!
>ahhh...thatnight
>yes!... We're talking about the same night, right?
>and then you'll be stopped... by the unstoppable weapon!
>nothing's unstoppable except formewhen I'm stoppingyoufrom tellingmesomething's unstoppable!
>i hope this turns out better than your plan to cook rice in your stomach by eating it raw and then drinking boiling water...
>this plan is nothing like that plan
>i threw up a little on the third floor, someone might want to clean that up. Is there some sort of evil janitor or somethin'?
>look at him! A lifetime to plot his revenge and he comes to me on his knees!
>hey, wait, I did not have alifetime... we only heard about Master Thundering Rhino a few days ago, and we came to avenge him!
>you've come to avenge nothing else?
>yeah, all those pots and pans you stole- we're going to want those back!
>the only reason you're still alive is because i find your stupidity... mildly amusing
>thank you, but i find your evilness extremely annoying?
>who do you think you are, panda?
>who do you think i am, peawiener?
>i know, dad. I just have so many questions. Like how did i ever fit in this tiny basket? Why didn't i like pants? And who am i?
>(Po's hand catches fire and he puts in his mouth instead of the lake around him)
>spread out, search everywhere!
>what about over there?
>is there a part of everywhere?
>uh... i guess
>then search there!
this film is consistently unfunny
frick off sharkgay, no one ever wants you to just straight up dump the script in threads yet you keep doing
>every master must find his path to inner peace. Some choose to meditate for 50 years in a cave just like this. Without the slightest taste of food or water
>(Po' stomach growls) or?
>some find it through pain and suffering as I did. Po, the day you were chosen as Dragon Warrior... was the worst day of my life. By far. Nothing else came close. It was the worst, most painful mind-destroying, horrible, moment...
>okay.
>...I have ever experienced. But once I realized the problem was not you, but within me, I found inner peace
unfunny joke and an out of character moment for Shifu. You'd think the day his adopted son Tai Lung went on a rampage through China and attacked him would be the worst one
Well, I saw it as sort of a culmination as the day Tai Lung betrayed him. Shifu felt like he finally had a chance to set things right and atone for creating a monster by ruining his adopted son's life, only to find that the title of Dragon Warrior was gonna go to a fat panda who was literally chosen just by accident. The absolute despair he felt over that was all the pain he felt over Tai Lung plus the pain of feeling like he had failed yet again and his one chance for redemption had been robbed from him, dooming him to feeling the guilt and shame he had been feeling for the past two decades for the rest of his life.
Half of those are pretty good and the other half is passable for a sequel to a kids movie.
Solid jokes. Grinned just reaiding them. Thanks!
you won't laugh at those jokes while watching the film, because there isn't a good story around them
Or maybe you just don't like good stories or good comedy. I on the other hand do, that's a problem you should really look into though.
Some of those are actualy pretty funny, stop being contrarian
The critic thought it was better than the first one and he's infinitely more based than the dig fricker.
directors of first movie, John Stevenson and Mark Osborne, didn't return for this one in any way. Not even as executive producers or consultants. They wanted nothing to do with this cash grab
It was still good though. Third movie is the one where I dont know what the frick happened to the staff to create such a boring product.
frick off the sequel was great the 3rd movie was ass you just dont get it
>rick and morty speaking
It's not a bad sequel but it does begin the problems that come to a head in making 3 a bad sequel
>peawiener heir to a throne overhears of a prophecy that he'll be defeated by a "warrior from black and white" if he continues his evil ways. Assuming it refers to a panda, he and his army destroy a nearby village of pandas by setting it on fire and murdering everyone. Peawiener' parents banish him from kingdom, so he swears revenge and spends the next 30 years stealing metal and building fireworks cannons to reclaim the throne, conquer China and destroy kung fu
weak backstory
Strong backstory actually, you just listed why. Sorry you can't understand your own evidence.
Ugh
Thank god KFP2 was there, weird to post it with those three other bad movies. No wonder it's such a critical and financial darling.
Gonna rewatch it right now, damn this film is good!
Plot and dialogue was meh
The animation and music boosted the frick out of it though, I mean holy fricking shit
That plot and dialogue you just posted is awesome though, such a great movie.
Frick you sharktale gay. Your opinions will never mean anything when you constantly praise that shitty Will Smith movie as the pinnacle of animation.
>long ago, in ancient china, the peawieners ruled over Gongmen City. They brought great joy and prosperity to the city, for they had invented fireworks. But their son, Lord Shen, saw darker power in the fireworks. What had brought color and joy could also bring darkness and destruction. Shen's troubled parents consulted a soothsayer. She foretold that if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white. The young lord set out to change his fate, but what he did next... only sealed it. Shen returned to his parents full of pride, but in their faces, he only saw horror. He was banished from the city forever. But Shen swore revenge. Someday he would return, and all of china would bow at his feet
one of the most half assed opening narrations in any movie
Fantastic opening narration, no wonder this movie is so beloved.
Are you fricking serious? That opening was fantastic, especially with the shadow puppet look
I'm just here to post the best scene in the movie
Great scene
>Arthur Christmas, Rio, Tintin, Winnie the Pooh
frick the academy for nominating this bad sequel instead of any of those better films
Good thing the academy awards voted for the right movie.
It's an autism thing, if you empathized with the characters it means you're a functional and emotionally stable human being.
YMS is a condescending hack.
>That Po/Shen fight at the end
KINO
It's not called Kino Panda 2 for nothing
Great taste anon, every scene with Shen was great though
trips confirm, Shen was a great antagonist and Oldman hit it out of the park.
the peawiener never once says Po's name (unlike Tai Lung). He wasn't even aware that Po is the dragon warrior, only fearing him because he is a panda. He never mentions Shifu or Oogway either... as a matter of fact, he doesn't say the name of anyone in the film (i doubt the soothsayer's name is soothsayer)
Such great writing that they don't feel the need for every character to state one another's name, such a tight script.
Aw sweet, a schizo thread
this movie makes Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones seem like masterpieces by comparison. The writing and pacing are that bad
That's a weird thing to say about KFP2, one of the best written and paced Dreamworks movies that is regularly praised as such.
It has Shen so it's fine.
he is an butthole. I don't like villains who treat their subordinates (the wolves and gorillas in his case) without a hint of respect or care. He is also petty, like when he disrespects his late father by throwing away his throne from the window
Shen is great because he's a villain and does villain things as you just described, as any good villain should.
>I don't like villains who (do bad thing)
I fricking hate zoomers
>(after tossing away his father's throne out of a window, Shen has the gorillas put the cannon where the throne was)
>a little to the left
>uh, but it's so heavy, master!
>thirty years I've waited for this moment. Everything must be exactly how I envisioned it... and I envisioned it a little to the left
>(gorillas adjust the cannon)
>perfect. With the weapon by my side... ah, a little bit more (cannon is adjusted again)... with the weapon by my side, all of china will bow before me
he literally acts
like a child
Yeah but hes cute.
Can I get a quick rundown on Shaktalegay?
what you see here is what you get. just imagine this in every thread about any dreamworks movie.
>arbitrarily acrid internet critic #0876235986
Whatever.
Wtf who's phone number did you just post
>Just realized I typed the right number of digits
Whodathunkit
Maybe someone should find out.
YMS is wrong, Peawiener husbando
Kung Fu Panda and Arthur & the Minimoys should've never gotten sequels. First installments are quite good, but what came after is a perfect example of sequelitis. Cars also shouldn't have gotten sequels, but merchandise sales were so high that they were kinda inevitable
It's a good thing Kung Fu panda got a sequel because 2 surpassed it in every way.
>Panda 1 : directed by John Stevenson and Mark Osborne, with a story by Cyrus Voris and Ethan Reiff
>Arthur 1 : screenplay co written by Celine Garcia
they didn't come back for the sequels and it shows
Yeah, because the new people did a much better job for KFP2. It's weird how a new creative team can improve on the original like that.
Surpassed the original, way better than number three.
Just like Shrek 2 fellow connoisseur of taste.
There is nothing in either film to suggest that Kung Fu Panda and Shark Tale can't coexist in the same universe. In fact for all we know there could be masters of undersea styles of kung fu
Well the fact Shark Tale is shit and Kung Fu Panda 1 & 2 (with 2 being better) are good means they can't really coexist.
nonsense, good and bad things coexist in our world, why not in dreamworksland
Considering they don't really do shared universe movies and Shark Tale is shit while KFP2 is good, I doubt that.
Literal fricking moron
humans canonically exist in Shark Tale, yet they don't in KFP
FRICK OFF SHARKTALEgay
/co/'s KFP-boner is fricking moronic. The first one was just the usual "Student learns secret technique and becomes the ultimate Kung-Fu badass" thing that Drunken Master and countless other movies have done better, with an element of the usual "Loser learns to fit in" thrown in. There are seven other kung-fu masters--Shifu, Oogway, and the Furious Five--trying to defeat the villain, and none of them amounts to shit at the end of the day. A more accurate title would've been "Kung-Fu Movie-By-Numbers".
KFP 2 is even worse, being basically a rehash of the first movie with Po mastering another secret technique (Inner Peace) to defeat another vaguely tragic villain. Here though, the "tragic villain" schtick is even stupider since Shen is a remorseless, genocidal psychopath who even murders his own henchmen. Shen's master plan ("I'll invade all of China with seven ships!") is moronic, the new side characters are just as useless as the old ones, and the whole movie is basically just a long Wile E. Coyote episode where the protagonists repeatedly try and fail to stop Shen over and over until Po wins.
The third one is so bad I had to watch it in snatches.
>LE FUNNY PANDAS XD
The villain is a dull non-entity, though at least he doesn't have a whiny backstory like the first two. The side characters are just as useless as ever, and I don't really know how Po learning to accept who he is differs all that much from the "Inner Peace" he achieved in KFP2.
>(wolf lifts a sheep by the collar)
>this rice is raw!
>but you stole all my metal pots for Lord Shen!
>either you cook my rice, or I cook you!
>(Furious Five are watching the scene) Po, do something!
>how am I supposed to help her cook rice without getting caught?
they made Po too much of an idiot in 2. He wasn't quite like this in 1
Hilarious line, no wonder people love KFP2 Po
You meant 3 right?
He meant 3 right?