I have a degree in Film Directing, I've seen well over 3000 movies, and written 3 screenplays. I've studied Kurosawa, Kubrick, Tarantino, and Scorsese. I saw Wings when they remastered it in 2012 at the TCM Film Festival. I also studied Shakespeare. You don't know me at all.
Never realized people didn’t like this one. As a kid it was my favorite because I liked short round. My favorite star wars movie as a kid was phantom menace and that’s also disliked apparently.
Intro scene is pure kino.
The feast scene is pure kino.
The lava pit scene is pure kino.
The mine cart chase is pure kino.
The bad voodoo Indy is pure kino.
The giant guy death is pure kino.
The rope bridge is pure kino.
The way the main bad guy dies is pure kino.
right, the village was totally normal and vegetarians, only the Thugee ate meat, people can't pick up on the nuance of all this cause to them all brown people are the same
I feel like the idea that this film was disliked appeared overnight. Not once in my life have I ever heard anyone complain about it. It was my favorite as a kid as well.
the person you are replying to is aware of that but gets paid to say you're wrong without factual evidence, and will do so in the next thousand threads too.
I think the dislike originates from Short Round and Kate just being very annoying from start to finish.
I didn't find it annoying since I saw these movies as a kid so it all burnt in as is without me parsing annoying parts as annoying, but if someone saw it later in life they'd definitely be noticing those two characters only whine and half-yell in a high-pitched voice the whole time.
Women seem to hate Kate Capshaws character and want a stronger female lead but most women i know are more like her than Marion. Hell, a house spider will make them think twice before saving someone. I guess the problem is also that she is a reference to older movies and characters types that people have no clue about anymore.
1st and 3rd are better when watching the first time, but rewatching the series they feel rushed, disconnected. the temple has the most fleshed out location and works better overall, long term.
In the other two movies Indy's adventure has more global context and there's usually a rival group trying to get to the goal first, clues need to be examined, locations visited etc..
But in ToD Indy is trying to escape a nightclub, then falls out of an airplane into an indian village and then locally solves a problem for them involving some artifact-related shit.
It feels entirely isolated for any global context or larger scheme. The whole thing is entirely incidental and a bit random.
Thats very typical for adventure stories which feature a recurring character. Even Agatha Christie stories have the characters stumbling into a situation they are forced or compelled to solve.
These.
Indy is an homage to the pulp serials of the day that were exactly like this. White fearless adventurer vs the murky unexplored depths of the world.
Thats very typical for adventure stories which feature a recurring character. Even Agatha Christie stories have the characters stumbling into a situation they are forced or compelled to solve.
I don't get why people don't like this one specifically. As a casual enjoyer, the trilogy are pretty much comparable to one another. Any difference in quality/rating is at most a 1 star deviation. Anyone have reasons besides racism? The racism gave it character anyway and made it more interesting/immersive.
>ToD villains >pulpy ott blood cultists who remove victim's hearts and sacrifice them to khorne and use child slavery better suited to the genre of pulp-adventure; a civilized white man exploring the dark depths of the world for hidden knowledge and artifacts
>RotLA & TLC villains
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Doom has no agenda.
The other two are too israeli.
I think the hate for Temple of Doom comes from a miss in communication and marketing. It was always meant to be a James Bond type of thing where every new film is like a new adventure with a new setting and characters, only loosely connected if at all; but the public just wanted a sequel to Raiders. So when Doom comes out and is a prequel, way darker, new cast it gets a big "huh?" because people didn't get the format.
Then Last Crusade feels like big damage control and is basically Raiders 2, ok movie but not nearly as interesting imo
I don't get why people don't like this one specifically. As a casual enjoyer, the trilogy are pretty much comparable to one another. Any difference in quality/rating is at most a 1 star deviation. Anyone have reasons besides racism? The racism gave it character anyway and made it more interesting/immersive.
I think the hate for Temple of Doom comes from a miss in communication and marketing. It was always meant to be a James Bond type of thing where every new film is like a new adventure with a new setting and characters, only loosely connected if at all; but the public just wanted a sequel to Raiders. So when Doom comes out and is a prequel, way darker, new cast it gets a big "huh?" because people didn't get the format.
Then Last Crusade feels like big damage control and is basically Raiders 2, ok movie but not nearly as interesting imo
1 > 2 > 3 > 4
Pretty interesting, thanks for the response. Makes me want to watch all 3 again. Surprised people expected direct, connected sequels for such a story/setup. Weren't episodic stories a thing for decades before Indiana Jones, from books to radio shows to other mediums? Maybe people watching it at the time had a different mindset which led to those incorrect expectations.
I honestly think the IP of Indiana Jones being so closely tied to Harrison Ford is ultimately what held it back from being what they wanted it to be right from the start, they wanted him to be this character who went on a wide variety of adventures similar to Bond but since Ford was so tied to the role of Indiana that limited what they could actually do with the concept. They tried with Young Indiana Jones and have other actors play him at different ages but at that point it was too little too late, they just gave up on trying to recast him and tried to have the "next generation" take over instead.
He never uses a machete in thar film
>thar
Kys
he used one to cut the rope bridge near the end.
That was a sword dumbass
It shows right there in the poster it's a machete.
Frick your forced meme, homosexual.
I have a degree in Film Directing, I've seen well over 3000 movies, and written 3 screenplays. I've studied Kurosawa, Kubrick, Tarantino, and Scorsese. I saw Wings when they remastered it in 2012 at the TCM Film Festival. I also studied Shakespeare. You don't know me at all.
this is the only decent Indiana Jones movie.
only correct opinion itt
Never realized people didn’t like this one. As a kid it was my favorite because I liked short round. My favorite star wars movie as a kid was phantom menace and that’s also disliked apparently.
>phantom menace and that’s also disliked apparently.
What are you, 16?
zoomers don't care about Indy at all
The only people who dislike this dislike it because the screaming helpless woman is annoying and LE RACISM against India.
Is this the only one that authentically follows the source material?
Still good but the weakest of the 3
Raiders is my favorite
Apologise for it being my favourite?
Cinemaphile likes Temple of Doom, there's nothing to apologize for
Intro scene is pure kino.
The feast scene is pure kino.
The lava pit scene is pure kino.
The mine cart chase is pure kino.
The bad voodoo Indy is pure kino.
The giant guy death is pure kino.
The rope bridge is pure kino.
The way the main bad guy dies is pure kino.
>intro scene is pure kino
>tfw you'll never get into a ballroom ball with a bunch of asians and balloons
anything goes I suppose...
this flick is kinda racist fr fr
>cult is weird
>probably attempting to get Indy to frick off
>das rayciss
why is it racist? the cult was based on the thuggee, sorry but they were insane ritualistic murders, robbers, and thieves.
but but brown people can't be shown in an evil light. but but brown people in their traditional garb is offensive
right, the village was totally normal and vegetarians, only the Thugee ate meat, people can't pick up on the nuance of all this cause to them all brown people are the same
the only good indy flick
Why? I've loved this movie since it first came out.
now its cool to say its the worst
the movies severely lack the presence of short round
No, it's the worst one in the series minus crystal skull.
I feel like the idea that this film was disliked appeared overnight. Not once in my life have I ever heard anyone complain about it. It was my favorite as a kid as well.
I'm absolutely positive Temple of Doom slander started on Reddit.
its a youtube hot take thing
No it was before Reddit, I recall people shitting on it in forums back in the late 90s. It's definitely an internet thing though
proof?
Well, you would know.
I prefer Crystal Skull. Temple of Doom is not an Indiana Jones movie.
It is the most true to classic pulp stories out of all the Indy movies
the person you are replying to is aware of that but gets paid to say you're wrong without factual evidence, and will do so in the next thousand threads too.
I think the dislike originates from Short Round and Kate just being very annoying from start to finish.
I didn't find it annoying since I saw these movies as a kid so it all burnt in as is without me parsing annoying parts as annoying, but if someone saw it later in life they'd definitely be noticing those two characters only whine and half-yell in a high-pitched voice the whole time.
nothing is wrong with the Temple of Doom.
cool Chinese 1930s aesthetic with Chinese gangsters.
crazy thuggee cultists
overall a great movie. it's a great trilogy. it was wrapped up nicely and should have stayed that way.
Women seem to hate Kate Capshaws character and want a stronger female lead but most women i know are more like her than Marion. Hell, a house spider will make them think twice before saving someone. I guess the problem is also that she is a reference to older movies and characters types that people have no clue about anymore.
Women don't like being portrayed realistically.
Watch Gunga Din
why. i have always been of the opinion that
>raiders=doom=crusade
and that ANYBODY who disagrees isnt really an indy fan
1st and 3rd are better when watching the first time, but rewatching the series they feel rushed, disconnected. the temple has the most fleshed out location and works better overall, long term.
It feels more like an aside.
In the other two movies Indy's adventure has more global context and there's usually a rival group trying to get to the goal first, clues need to be examined, locations visited etc..
But in ToD Indy is trying to escape a nightclub, then falls out of an airplane into an indian village and then locally solves a problem for them involving some artifact-related shit.
It feels entirely isolated for any global context or larger scheme. The whole thing is entirely incidental and a bit random.
That's what makes it more fun. It's more of a pulpy side adventure. Just an average week in the life of Indy.
These.
Indy is an homage to the pulp serials of the day that were exactly like this. White fearless adventurer vs the murky unexplored depths of the world.
Thats very typical for adventure stories which feature a recurring character. Even Agatha Christie stories have the characters stumbling into a situation they are forced or compelled to solve.
That makes it kino.
I never hated it though. It is my second favorite Indy movie behind Last Crusade.
Why would I? It’s my favorite of the trilogy.
I don't get why people don't like this one specifically. As a casual enjoyer, the trilogy are pretty much comparable to one another. Any difference in quality/rating is at most a 1 star deviation. Anyone have reasons besides racism? The racism gave it character anyway and made it more interesting/immersive.
>ToD villains
>pulpy ott blood cultists who remove victim's hearts and sacrifice them to khorne and use child slavery better suited to the genre of pulp-adventure; a civilized white man exploring the dark depths of the world for hidden knowledge and artifacts
>RotLA & TLC villains
Le ebil nahtzees searching for christcuck memorabilia
Doom has no agenda.
The other two are too israeli.
It was always cucks and feminists saying, "Waaaah! Le damsel in distress is... le damsel in distress? This is le hecking problomaticerino!"
I think the hate for Temple of Doom comes from a miss in communication and marketing. It was always meant to be a James Bond type of thing where every new film is like a new adventure with a new setting and characters, only loosely connected if at all; but the public just wanted a sequel to Raiders. So when Doom comes out and is a prequel, way darker, new cast it gets a big "huh?" because people didn't get the format.
Then Last Crusade feels like big damage control and is basically Raiders 2, ok movie but not nearly as interesting imo
1 > 2 > 3 > 4
meant for
Pretty interesting, thanks for the response. Makes me want to watch all 3 again. Surprised people expected direct, connected sequels for such a story/setup. Weren't episodic stories a thing for decades before Indiana Jones, from books to radio shows to other mediums? Maybe people watching it at the time had a different mindset which led to those incorrect expectations.
I think the format is also entirely different.
Raiders is a globe-trotting caper movie and Temple is more of an isolated "monster of the week" episode.
I can't blame the audience for wanting Indy to fly all over the world and track down some artifact again.
Why? I always liked it and defended it.
It's mostly the two sidekicks constantly screeching.
The kid is an annoying racial caricature and Kate is constantly kvetching.
Willie Scott is bimbokino. Its fun seeing a female character be so unappolegtically dumb and incompetent.
Extra amusing because Spielberg married her.
im sorry
I honestly think the IP of Indiana Jones being so closely tied to Harrison Ford is ultimately what held it back from being what they wanted it to be right from the start, they wanted him to be this character who went on a wide variety of adventures similar to Bond but since Ford was so tied to the role of Indiana that limited what they could actually do with the concept. They tried with Young Indiana Jones and have other actors play him at different ages but at that point it was too little too late, they just gave up on trying to recast him and tried to have the "next generation" take over instead.