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I'm finding it very difficult to enjoy this webshow these days!!!
why are you excited!!!
I just want less hax heavy fights
Me too!!!
It's not very good currently!!!
I haven't enjoyed this shit since 2019
I fricking hate powerscaling.
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Might as well, Kumagawa Misogi.
Reposting from dead other thread.
>Couldn't erase that one ability
Actually, Kumagawa clearly erased her minus, giving her the power to control it as an abnormality instead. A minus minus a minus gives a plus, and he erased all the negative parts of Raff Rafflesia.
Iihiko meanwhile represents "main character" frickery just like Medaka does, but instead of her "copy your abilities" power, he's a "I ignore all your powers eat shit frick you" character and would unironically kill any character short of metawank like Thought Robot or what have you in a fair fight.
What exactly are Purple, Red or Blue going to do when Kumagawa undoes the existence of those colors?
God,Gojogays are so uppity, they think that they can go up against a proper reality warper just because they have a slightly haxxy ability. Kumagawa has infinite speed through turning his own time to nothing when he performs an action. There's nothing that Gojob can do.
Request: Megatron vs The Iron Giant
Costume: Lordgenome
Freeza killing Optimus Prime while Amuro's Gundam and fragments of Cybertron float in the background.
Pajama Sam
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>Next up is Makima vs Gojo
Why? They have nothing in common.
Fricking morons, that's why.
>attractive people with unique eyes who are unkillable for some reason
>also normie matchup because muh recent anime
Shippers match
Gojo exclusively gets fricked by men (Sukuna and Toji) and Makima likes animals though.
Literally an embarrassing non-reader choice, it's one of the biggest "we aren't actually fans of ether" flags I've seen on DB. Usually even the bad MUs just show a misunderstanding of one character, not both.
Naruto vs Luffy of the current day.
Except there's more connections beyond just the fan base rivalry for LvN
Step on me vs Choke me Daddy
wow it might unironically get to 1 mill in 24 hours
Possibly 2-3 million by next week?? probably makes them realize DBZ gets them more views
>DB gets its best views from DB
Shocking.
DBZ truly is on another level...
Dragon Ball shits on One Piece in profits with no anime, several year old games and a manga that has been adapting a year-old movie.
Good.
didn't quite make it in 24 hours but certainly the fastest 1 viewcount we've had this season
>Peter retires and the end of Spider-man 2 game and Miles takes over
Frick.
https://vxtwitter.com/cvanimation/status/1711768093289013651?s=46&t=6-cPaY2qp6_y63LkZxsewA
There, it’s confirmed that this isn’t the Halloween EP.
>late halloween episode
OMG DB SISTERS!!!!!
A Halloween episode in November? Lame
Happened to Jon’s Halloween EP, and Dracula’s came like two weeks early. In fact, I think only two Halloween fights actually happened near or on the holiday.
At least Sabrewulf vs Talbain happened on Oct 31 for RT members. A Halloween episode on Nov 6 is fricking El Hechizado move.
That's fricking moronic. I know there's crew members that come here. I want to tell you you're all fricking moronic.
https://twitter.com/cvanimation/status/1711768722686279791?s=46&t=B9-VdMJi6ktGSpEtbW0NRQ
Technically he’s just saying it’s neat people think it is. He’s not actually denying or confirming anything
So what is he saying? If Gojo vs Makima isn't the Halloween episode, why release it in October? Is the real Halloween episode not ready yet?
>Happened to Jon’s Halloween EP
Wasn't that episode affected by the RvB episode getting delayed?
Shippers match
It’s called revenge rape match
>why release it in October?
Because the timing couldn’t be better. Where have you been for the past month?
GHOST RIDER VS SPAWN/DEVILMAN VS HELLBOY BROS WE ARE SO BACK
When are we going to get some Chinese animation fights? They literally have hundreds of DBZ-style stories.
Great TMNT match.
But not the best…..
Is Yang really a b***h?
Could the Manhattan Clan beat Team RWBY
With RWBY, it’s mostly dependent on using the Rise Turtles with Mystic Powers
Everyone knows it’s
>Mad Dogs vs Team RWBY
>2012 TMNT vs Ninjago
>1987/ Mirage TMNT vs Gargoyles
>2003 TMNT vs Robins
Street Sharks vs Ninja Turtles will ALWAYS be superior.
Sharks
>Strong enough to swim through concrete and bite through titanium
>Smart enough to invent gadgets. All four are smart enough to arm themselves with high tech gizmos
Turtles
>Years of physical training under Splinter
>have weapons
>fast as frick
The Turtles would be fine, if they kept their distance. Sadly, due to their weapons, they'd need to get close, and that's a bad idea.
I feel like Street Sharks gets a huge advantage because they tried to canonized the goofy action figure forms in the show to sell toys more aggressively.
Exploding shurikens vht the real problem is gonna be that underground movement. Turtles are gonna have to stay off the ground constantly but the Street Sharks can make sinkholes
That and Slammu can cause Earthquakes up to 7 on the Richter scale
I think Bikermice from Mars are better for at least the original TMNT. Cuz these guys swim through the roads like they're water. Also they scale to the Extreme Dinosaurs who were once moving at the speed of light through electronics around the world lol.. That's a feat Death Battle would look into for fricking sure.
But would we count just the main group, or would buddies be added?
Moby Lick, El Swordo, Mantaman, Casey Jones, the Mighty Mutanimals, Usagi, Hardrock, Ridge and Demona?
If your issues a stomp, the Biker Mice are more unironically suited more for the Swat Kats. Their bikes can pull on the foundations of a skyscraper and bring it crashing down, some of their enemies can hit hard enough to punch a guy into a building and bring it crashing down.
For reference, this dude, coincidentally also named Hard Rock. Can straight up unleash blasts that nuke a castle
We're counting villains in this royal rumble? Cause if that's the case, the Turtle's side will win by sheer numbers.
More about scaling potential
>If your issues a stomp, the Biker Mice are more unironically suited more for the Swat Kats.
Oh, absolutelly. I'd prioritize that one actually.
Have T Bone or Razor ever dealt with anything like the Biker Mice?
Technically no because the Extreme Dinosaurs in Street Sharks were retooled. In Street Sharks, they’re aliens
>Have T Bone or Razor ever dealt with anything like the Biker Mice?
Yeah, the raptors. They even use bikes too.
also their weapons are ridiculous. They can heat up a planet up to 20º (though, truth to be told, if it's F it isn't that big of a deal, but iirc from other episodes, it's celcius)
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There were Raptor Men in Swat Kats?
Frick, nevermind that post. I thought we were talking about BMFM vs SS/ED.
I don't remember much of Swat Kats.
Great RWBY match.
But not the best…
Ozpin is incredibly disappointing. I still don’t understand why his magic
Physically, the average anon here can hold down Makima and she won't be able to do anything about it.
Makima can tear out hearts and physically outclass someone who knocks around building sized enemies, so no.
I have no heart and my fat makes me heavier than a building.
Makima can't even share e off most her abilities without outside help. Not just her devil contracts, her "immortality" is tied to her setting. Shouldn't she be put against another character with a similar limitation so it seems less like a handicap?
The funniest part of this whole thing is, that Death Battle always gives the losing fanbase a pity win. It happens with every franchise. So that means in the future, Chainsaw Man will get a win but I'm struggling to think of any protagonist that Denji can even with against because his scaling is so fricking weak.
They wanked off Sol super hard against Ragna though.
When epilogue Xrd and Strive nerfed him twice.
And RWBY dickriding is waaaaay more rampant at the time than FFVII.
To be fair he logically has to get stronger to be involved in the story at this point. Eventually. Unless he really is just going to be an observer the whole dn manga.
>because his scaling is so fricking weak.
What?
>Easy city level with Gun Devil/Fiend, “Justice” Devil and Typhoon Devil scaling
>Way higher with Falling Devil since she was causing natural disasters with her gravity
In what world is his scaling weak.
I mean compared to other shonen protagonists. I'm pretty sure Yuji demolishes him. Gon demolishes him. Yusuke, Bobobo, Saint Seiya dude, Jotaro, Kenshiro... Goku, Ichigo, Naruto, Boruto, of course. I can't really think of many characters he can beat. Denji has no actual skill in combat, no martial arts or dodging prowess, no psychology or any proficient fighting style. It'll have to be a really weak jobber for him to get a win on Death Battle. Dude's got no feats.
I believe their Denji vs Yuji fight had Denji stronger with just part 1 scaling
>Yuji and Gon
Absolutely not, especially not Gon. With Yuji they’re somewhat equal.
>Denji has no actual skill in combat, no martial arts or dodging prowess, no psychology or any proficient fighting style
He constantly outclasses people with superior fighting skills (Katana, Santa, The Hybrids [although it was technically Pochita], Falling, Reze when he stopped dicking around) with his wit and skills. Where are you getting the idea that he doesn’t have combat smarts or abilities? Because he’s not yelling a super move every time he throws a punch? (looking at you, “Black Flash”)
>Dude's got no feats.
Lol what. He throws around building sized opponents with his strikes like they’re nothing, deflects shots that turn city blocks and miles of cities themselves into glass floors, takes hits from people who turn buildings into smoldering piles of rubble, fought his way out of Hell (again, technically Pochita), can throw his heart with enough speed to make it burn upon re-entry of the planet, and you think he has no feats? That’s not even getting into him being comparable to Falling in terms of AP.
Every MU uses Pochita anyway, you'd have a harder time coming up with a thematic mu who beats that.
Kaiman
What was the point of the panic bubble if Frieza just broke out of it? I thought they would with a pyrrhic victory where Frieza wins but can't escape
Nothing. They had no plan or intention for Megatron to have even a moment where it seems like he had a chance. I'm a Transformers fan but if you're only using Sunbow G1 and IDW, Frieza doesn't even need Super scaling to win.
DB always uses the strongest version of each character. Frieza was just too powerful.
No form multipliers. No attempts at scaling growth over the manga. No SDBH/Xenoverse scaling. He stomped with SSG Goku's stats at the start of DBS.
>DB always uses the strongest version of each character.
Except when they don't.
Frieza won. Go play with your toys.
>Frieza won.
By ducking the stronger versions.
It's like Goku getting to beat Superman because they only used DCAU Superman.
DB uses the characters at their strongest.
Frieza won.
Put two and two together.
>DB uses the characters at their strongest.
But they didn't use Heroes Frieza either.
Not needed. Frieza destroys any version of Metatron without even going gold.
That's not the point. That poster was refuting then using characters at their strongest.
Not him but they didn't even use mid Megatrons like Unicron Trilogy or Marvel G1, which is stupid because if they were using Frieza Black he would have won anyways, so it comes off as coddling Frieza for no reason.
Even that criteria is inconsistent. Trunks got Heroes shit while Frieza didn't.
They only used Xeno Trunks because they were specifically utilizing Archie Silver.
I'm not even sure if I understand the Alternity Megatron vs DBH Freeza matchup because:
>DBH characters passively warp infinite timelines and risk destruction of said infinite timelines
>Alternity Megatron exists across (idk how many) timelines and grows weaker with each version of himself that is destroyed
>Freeza just clashing with Alternity Megatron would kill most other versions of Megatron because he doesn't give a frick about the collateral of his power
Yet I see Alternitygays say Freeza would get stomped insanely hard to the extent he has no wincons. Why? What lore am I missing?
Metatroons are simply upset
I don't think anyone thought Alternity would beat Heroes scaling. It's that people were trying to use Japanese G1, which essentially crams everything into one continuity.
Well even there I've seen people claim DBH can't be used because it isn't 'canon'. But DBH already composites everything (the 'real world' has all DB continuities as fiction and DBH is comprised of all continuities) which includes the DBS manga (See Goku using Hakai) and the only thing it lacks for Freeza is his Black form (which isn't relevant because it's borderline featless).
Technically you can't really composite Frieza Black with Heroes Frieza because Heroes simply doesn't cover Toyotaro's manga until it's animated. But he also doesn't really need it considering a lot of Heroes scaling is absurd. Hearts was supposed to be bearing Zeno's power and he was the big bad way before the most recent Heroes Frieza incarnation.
DBH has used DBS manga shit before. Goku uses Hakai in a reference to the Black Saga. They just haven't done shit for Moro onwards, which is irrelevant to Freeza because the only thing he does is get an unknown power increase and a form we know nothing about and one shot UI Goku and UE Vegeta.
Essentially it's pointless. DBH already composites Pre-Moro manga, the Toei anime, all the games and all that shit. So just do composite DBH Freeza.
We're talking about Alternity right now. So I don't care about the other versions of himself that he could kill.
Xeno Goku was forbidden from going Super Saiyan 4 because it risks the destruction of all timelines, this was much earlier in the DBH storyline. Golden Freeza scales to Golden Metal Cooler who fricked up Super Saiyan 3 Cumber. Super Saiyan 3 Cumber scales above SS4 Xeno Vegito.
So yes, Freeza can destroy infinite timelines with Golden. Xeno Goku has no inherent abilities that would let him do it and not Freeza.
They claim the Archie cosmology transcends the Heroes cosmology.
Can you provide me with the episode or preferably screencap where Goku going SSJ4 will destroy infinite timelines, and later on people who are much much much stronger are around fighting one another and nothing happens?
He's talking about heroes, which doesn't have regular scaling. Even Dr. Wheelo In heroes is above SS4.
So? He's telling me SSJ4 would blow up an infinite multiverse just by EXISTING, but then told me stronger people than that exist and fight each other and nothing happens. I distinctly remember some bullshit about SS Blue vs SS4 and no multiverses were destroyed
SSJ4 is THAT good
Bluetrannies BTFO
Easily the coolest transformation, I agree
SS4 lost 2 times to CC Goku.
>xenoku let ccku win to boost his confidence
my FRICKING HERO
Xeno Fraudku proved that Jiren and Goku are beyond ANY thing in Heroes.
>jirengay cope
Kekaroo!
XENOku? Solos Super.
Xenoku jobbed twice to CC Goku. The score is 2-0. Xenoku lost.
>l-l-lo-
Kekaroo!
My HERO XENOku? Boosting CCku's self-confidence.
>Xeno Goku
One shotted.
>helps CCku believe in himself
This is why XENOku is my HERO
SUPERgayS BTFO
>GTard cope
KEKAROOOOO!!! Grand Taco lost and is going to get rebooted by Super.
>this is what supercucks unironically believe
enjoy your optional sequel!
>SS4 weaker than Z Vegito
HUH??? Speak up b***h!!
>Chinese book
absolute state of jirentard cope
>kanzenshuu
>chinese
The absolute state of Grand Taco gays.
>further jirentard cope
GT? Shits all over Spicper
>OPUSper
Grand Taco lost. Weaker than Z Vegito.
>unironic supertard
Kekaroo!
>unironic Grand Pedo
FUNNYROOO!!
>pedophilia OUT OF NOWHERE
OH NO JIRENXIRS WE'RE PROJECTING
>no you
Grand Tacos everyone!!
>further jirentard mindbreak
Kekaroo!
>m-m-mindbreak
KWAB!!!
>jirentard cope
SHITren the gay? Fodder!
>homosexual fantasies out of nowhere
You like Grand Taco.
>character literally named jiren the gay
JIRENBROS... WE ARE HOMOS?????
>Grand Taco Hispanic can't read
KEKAROOOO!!!
Pretty obvious. Mastered Ultra Instinct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bejito Blue.
To be fair he stood no chance even as SSG
That's literally what his post implied, can you not read
Non-xeno Goku (and Jiren) as they appear in heroes ARE heroes characters though. Your logic makes no sense.
It's a jirentard, they aren't known for their intelligence.
Eat my ass, XenoBlack person, Jiren and Goku are king. Your Limit Break SSJ4 isn't even Sign tier.
>mindbroken jirentard
kekaroo!
Reminder, Jiren is the strongest.
HOLY MAMA ZAMA!!!!! JIREN IS SO INVINCIBLE AND HANDSOME!!!!!!
>jiren the gay
Fodder before XENOku.
Nope. If Goku > Xeno Goku then by proxy
Jiren > Goku > Xeno Goku
Jiren's weaker then the Street Sharks.
Jiren is weaker than [headcanon]
I'm sorry, when has Jiren ever swam through solid concrete? Sharks win.
>Rocks are water to ShitARK
>Rocks are AIR to Jiren
JIREN is the Crystalization of VIOLENCE!
Rocks aren't concrete, Jirenposter. And it's clearly not air to him, as they're still rocks until they explode.
moron. CC Goku>>> Xeno Goku>> Super/GT goku
>WEAKren the gay starts coping
XENOku solos.
>Super Jiren is way stronger than anything in Heroes!
>See? Look how strong he is in Heroes!
Do you understand the fault in your logic
moronic mongoloid. They are all Heroes characters.
Jiren and Goku are much stronger in Heroes than Super though.
Blue Gogeta beat a guy who was supposed to be a threat to Zeno even though that's a character who already existed in Super.
>Your Limit Break SSJ4 isn't even Sign tier.
We know for a fact that it is from the latest episode of SDBH, CC Goku has to power up to MUI in order to win against it.
Also it's called SFPS4LB.
Anon. CC Goku and Bejita literally gave their energy to Xeno Goku and Bejita sk that they can achivere SS4 Limit Break because they are weak shitters. That means that CC MUI Goku one-shotted Xeno SS4 Goku mixed with CC Bejita and Goku.
Dumbass.
Watch the show.
Read the manga.
The latest arc ended with CC Goku asking Aeos to make a new tournament so he can properly fight Xeno Goku, who he promised to fight at the beginning of the arc.
UI Sign is an equal match for SFPS4LB and CC Goku has no choice but to ascend to MUI in order to win.
moron. CC MUI Goku one-shotted Xeno Goku.
You said Xeno "isn't even Sign tier".
I didn't say Xeno was MUI tier.
I said it was Sign tier and I am right about that.
You were wrong about Sign being above Xeno.
I am not the moronic Jiren homosexual that claimed that Xeno isn't sign tier.
Then why jump in?
I only brought up MUI as CC Goku's only wincon against Xeno Goku.
I didn't even imply Xeno Goku was on par with CC MUI, let alone stronger.
I thought you were someone else.
You thought wrong.
>reddit picture
You blew it.
Explain.
>Can you provide me with the episode or preferably screencap where Goku going SSJ4 will destroy infinite timelines
Chronoa, who monitors all timelines, warns Goku to not use Super Saiyan 4 because of the threat it can pose to spacetime. For context, one of the opponents he is facing here is Mira with Tokitoki absorbed. Tokitoki is the embodiment of infinite timelines and gave birth to time itself. It's the source of all Time Power.
Chronoa fears Goku using Super Saiyan 4 warping time itself when he is fighting someone who has the power of infinite timelines. Because they have no clue if Goku can control that level of strength.
For further scaling, Xenoverse Goku fights and defeats Mira w/ Tokitoki absorbed in Super Saiyan Blue. That's him just after RoF and it was shown that Golden Freeza has more raw power.
> and later on people who are much much much stronger are around fighting one another and nothing happens?
As I said, Chronoa feared Goku risking time itself because they had no idea if he could contain his own power. Clearly Goku pulled it off.
So you have zilch to tell me Goku going SSJ4 will blow up "infinite timelines" by virtue of existing, just as I suspected. Phrase things more accurately in the future
>The literal keeper of time tells him not to transform because of the risk it poses to all of time
>Goku uses it against a guy who absorbed the power of the embodiment of all timelines and his power completely matches his
>No evidence
I don't know Anon. I think I'll take the word of the god of time who safeguards it from destruction here.
I'm still waiting for scans of "Goku, don't go SS4 or infinite timelines will collapse instantly as a side effect"
>"Since we don't know what kind of impact it'll have on time (all of time, infinite timelines), I promised the Kaioshin (The Supreme Kai of Time, person that protects time) I wouldn't use this (Super Saiyan 4)"
>Proceeds to match the powers of Mira who absorbed Tokitoki (the embodiment of all time, infinite timelines and knocks him out of fusion)
He defeated the power of all time with a form that the god of time fears would frick up time itself just by entering it.
If you don't want to accept that shit then fine but don't pretend that I didn't substantiate my claim.
You didn't substantiate your claim, so I don't have to pretend anything. The Earth's rotation can distort linear time, a black hole's event horizon can distort time, I need a little more than "I dunno what'll happen to time waku waku" only for fricking nothing to happen when he fights two guys on his level. Be straight up with me, are you taking all this from a respect thread or vs wiki?
This is a problem I see all the time with Xeno, Heroes, whatever the frick.
>Goku fought this guy who could warp the multiverse
But I never see the multiversal reality warping, which isn't the same as Ki blasts, being used against Goku
>Goku fought this dude who was collapsing space and time along the multiverse
But if Goku was just as strong as him why wasn't HE collapsing space and time along the multiverse? It rather sounds like an esoteric property of the other dude!
>it's just some esoteric property of the other dude
Lol.
UI Goku > LBSS4 Goku = UIS Goku > Golden Freeza = Golden Metal Cooler >> SS3 Cumber >> SSB X20 Vegito >> Xeno SS4 Vegito >>>> SSB Goku > Xeno SS4 Goku = Mira w/ Tokitoki absorbed = Infinite timelines
>You didn't [HEADCANON]
I'm taking from the story itself. You are ignoring what the person who observes and protects all of time believes and ignoring the power that Mira is because you simply don't want to understand or accept the context.
>But if Goku was just as strong as him why wasn't HE collapsing space and time along the multiverse?
Why doesn't every multiversal character collapse the multiverse by fighting?
You're talking about something that visibly didn't happen. Your scan says Chronoa told Goku that nobody knows what a fully powered up SS4 will do to "time", yet he fought two guys you can somewhat compare to SS4 and nothing seemed to happen to "time". One of them had the full backing of all timelines if what you're telling me is correct, but if Goku is supposed to be strong enough to collapse every timeline all at once as a side effect of powering up, if it's really that insignificant, why is it considered significant when some douchebag merges with the timelines?
>Why doesn't every multiversal character collapse the multiverse by fighting?
You're missing the point. If I'm expected to believe this guy is collapsing spacetime along the entire multiverse as a side effect of being so strong, and Goku matches him, but Goku himself doesn't collapse spacetime along the entire multiverse as a side effect of being so strong you expect me not to raise an eyebrow?
>You're talking about something that visibly didn't happen.
This is equivalent to asking me why the entire story didn't just end from existence collapsing. The reason it didn't happen is because Chronoa and Goku had no idea if he could control his own power. Mira and Broly already showed that they can do so.
>Goku is supposed to be strong enough to collapse every timeline all at once as a side effect of powering up,
If he fails to control it, yes. They believed he risked time itself by using Super Saiyan 4 because they didn't know if he could control it or not like his opponents.
>why is it considered significant when some douchebag merges with the timelines?
Because in the context of Heroes, Time is a literal power source referred to as 'Time Power' which they use to increase their own power to insane levels. Absorbing the source of all Time Power directly correlates with the user's own power. Chronoa, the Supreme Kai of Time, is a master of Time Power. Aeos, the former Supreme Kai of Time, also utilises Time Power to completely control time and can even erase all timelines but lost to UIS Goku.
>but Goku himself doesn't collapse spacetime along the entire multiverse as a side effect of being so strong you expect me not to raise an eyebrow?
Again, it was a matter of whether Goku could prevent his own power from doing so. Again, like his opponents who already demonstrated they have mastery over their own power. And, again, this would bring into question every single multiversal character to ever exist.
Either Goku threatens infinite timelines (via the god of time's word and matching the guy with the power of infinite timelines) and controlled that power or nearly every single multiversal character in fiction isn't multiversal via your own logic. Because every single one of them would destroy their own setting.
It's hilarious that your knee jerk reaction to "We don't know what kind of impact this will have" is to immediately assume he meant "If I botch this the infinite multiverse will collapse as a side effect"
>Because in the context of Heroes, Time is a literal power source referred to as 'Time Power' which they use to increase their own power to insane levels.
I am beginning to see, now. You should have led with this instead of taking me through the rigmarole. But if it's "time power" they use to do all this bullshit then I'm not about to scale the temporal reality warping to basic b***h ki blasts and punches.
>Again/Again/Again
Stop making shit up. Read the first part of this post and I hope you can learn to laugh at yourself.
>Because every single one of them would destroy their own setting.
And they usually walk the walk and have to be stopped by others, or stop themselves. Like Odin, like Galactus, etc. But it's not even an issue because your initial conclusion is fallacious. Stop being bullheaded.
>It's hilarious that your knee jerk reaction to "We don't know what kind of impact this will have" is to immediately assume he meant "If I botch this the infinite multiverse will collapse as a side effect"
Shit Anon I don't know maybe that's because he's fighting someone embodying all of time and because the person who monitors all of time fears it?
>But if it's "time power" they use to do all this bullshit then I'm not about to scale the temporal reality warping to basic b***h ki blasts and punches.
They use Time Power for their attacks. Attacks which they regularly overpower. Before you ask, no Goku can't use Time Power. Time Energy is only used by time manipulators like Hit, Demigra, Mira, Mechikabura, Chronoa and Aeos.
For further context, Ki is just the energy of existence itself. It draws power from damn near everything. Time Energy is just one manifestation of ki like God Ki. There are also other forms of energy in DBH like Evil Ki which has its own powers and pertains to demons (who regularly compete with Time Power-wielders)
>Stop making shit up.
b***h you have consistently just dismissed basic fricking context. Don't speak.
>nd they usually walk the walk and have to be stopped by others, or stop themselves.
And as I said the threat was whether Goku could control himself (stop himself) from fricking up time.
>Stop being bullheaded.
You are arguing about a series you know nothing about trying to ignore basic context using moronic argumentation to try and 'debunk' something stated by the authority of time in the context of them fighting beings with power over all time.
What I find funny here is you talking about a series you don't know anything about and resorting to childish insults.
>Shit Anon I don't know maybe that's because [things I neglected to mention]
Which changes nothing. Goku isn't powerful enough to blow up an infinite multiverse by powering up and that's just about the only takeaway here. "We don't know the impact this will have" doesn't mean "If you botch it you'll destroy infinite timelines"
>They use Time Power for their attacks
I sure hope these "attacks" turn you into different versions of the character, or collapse timelines around you, or what have you. Because if it's just Ki that also lets you tamper with time then that doesn't cut it for me. This isn't getting into the fact that timelines have no durability.
The rest of your post is too childish and full of projection for me to dignify with my attention.
>Goku isn't powerful enough to blow up an infinite multiverse by powering up
He matches the power of a guy with the power of an infinite multiverse and powering up makes Chronoa afraid.
>If you botch it you'll destroy infinite timelines"
Given the mere clashes of Goku and Beerus threatened the macrocosm and required Goku to cancel out the destruction I'm inclined to say that on an infinitely greater scale would threaten an infinite multiverse.
>I sure hope these "attacks" turn you into different versions of the character, or collapse timelines around you, or what have you. Because if it's just Ki that also lets you tamper with time then that doesn't cut it for me.
No. They can use it like normal Ki to explode shit. Goku overpowers them. This even exists in canon. Hit uses Time power to create an energy sphere of condensed time and Jiren overpowers it.
Using Time Power as a source of energy in energy attacks is a thing in Heroes and canon alike and has been overpowered by Goku and co.
>This isn't getting into the fact that timelines have no durability.
Oh there we go. You just ruined it for yourself. Alright, no need to continue this then.
I'm glad I was about to read this from the bottom up. Did something upset you, princess?
I like that moro presented a new threat with hax rather than being another straight power-up guy
>Super Saiyan 3 Cumber scales above SS4 Xeno Vegito
Yawn, next.
Megatron can simply have his other selves snipe him across reality, especially since he can just make a couple auto-avatars rather than a shit ton.
Especially since Frieza wouldn't even be able to target him at all.
>snipe him across reality (timelines)
>Freeza wouldn't be able to target him
Freeza scales above infinite timeline busters and immeasurable speed. The moment he gets pissed off he's liable to just destroy all of reality in a fit of rage with his Ki. And since DBH characters have their power reach across infinite timelines Freeza would logically have equivalent range.
>Freeza scales above infinite timeline busters and immeasurable speed.
Megatron can scale to that even without Alternity.
How the frick could Heroes Trunks not beat Archie Silver then? Sounds like that match was fraud.
DB downplays DBZ becuase it's popular
>DB downplays DBZ
DBZ has more wins than losses and has the longest win streak out of any franchise. DB downplays Bleach, not DBZ.
>10x Ego boost despite the boost it gives never being stated
>X10 homiebillion times universal cause multipliers and muh waves
>“““downplay”””
Because the research team has only read respect threads on reddit and has downplayed Heroes. No offense to Sonic fans, but the research on heroes was TRASH.
Archie Super Forms are invincible, you can't hurt them.
Archie Silver is acasual and can remove Trunks' acasuality.
>Archie Super Forms are invincible, you can't hurt them.
What a fraudulent statement. Even if that were true, then Silver still should've got raped by the Key Sword.
Archie Super Forms are just bullshit, that's why they put Wally West up against Sonic, he's somehow even more bullshit.
>they go crazy bro!!!
Uhuh.
Sounds to me like Goku would punch Super Sonic into golden dust.
>nlf
This is why nobody takes sonicucks seriously
>NFL
moron, Death Battle was wanking archie Sonic so hard and even then he lost, then they applied the same stats to Silver who never even achieved the Super form and downplayed Heroes.
I don't like Archie Sonic, I don't care enough to argue for or against him, that's simply the logic they used to kill Trunks.
Don't you fricking DARE let anymore Sonic comic characters onto this show.
Stupid fricking furry soap opera.
Heroe's Trunks sword is literally created to frick with acasual stuff and seal stuff that can't be killed.
There's literally no reason Trunks lost that match other than Archie Sonic oldgays still having too much pull in online communities despite being an ever shrinking minority.
But wouldn't Megatron scoping Frieza not affect the Frieza he is fighting due to nature of time travel in Dragon Ball.
>DBH characters passively warp infinite timelines and risk destruction of said infinite timelines
People like Frieza? Or big bossman OC with time altering reality warping powers? How does Ki affect timelines exactly? Always rubbed me wrong how people scaled Heroes and Xenoverse. He's so strong his Ki warps timelines? That's what Ki does now? Yikes
Well you see, transformers has a 11-D multiverse and dragon ball is 5-D at best so
They literally used base frieza and admitted that Gold and Black weren't needed.
Sunbow G1 and IDW Megatron aren't even the strongest mainstream Megatrons.
Not that he would win without using forms that aren't mainstream, but this claim of DB using each character at their strongest doesn't hold water.
It is listroon. You are arguing with falseflagging listroon.
DB uses the characters at their strongest by default. It's literally a rule.
Okay well they failed. They didn't even use Marvel G1. Which makes no sense because that's the continuity they continued with for Beast Wars. IDW even republished it while they had the license.
>Didn't use the strongest Godzilla
Well there goes that rule.
they did use the strongest Godzilla at the time with Marvel Godzilla
No. No they didn't.
Showa, Trendmasters, Darkhorse, Heisei and GFW godzilla where right there.
>Didn't use Rune King Thor
>Didn't use either Bat Armor or Armored Spider in Batman vs Spiderman
>Didn't use Super Godzilla
>Didn't use Horn of Salvation Ichigo
>Didn't use Titanus for either Megazord or Dragonzord
I'm sure I could keep going if I bothered checking every Death Battle but you get the point
SuperGodzilla isn't even the strongest Godzilla at the time.
1199 degrees Burning Godzilla literally ignited the air around him every time he used his beam.
I disagree because normal Godzilla stands 0 chance against Bagan, total unwinnable battle, yet Super G can beat Bagan.
If you ask me Super G>Bagan=Meltdown G
G
Death Battle is too pussy to ever do Goku vs Saitama. Notice how they stay away from the real heated arguments and only do these one-sided stomps now.
Goku vs Saitama is also a one sided stomp though
It depends on your POV on who wins, but yeah it'll be a stomp one way or the other. Also we don't know how OPM ends yet, if Saitama beats God and does some other crazy shit he'll probably be the strongest manga character.
yeah but we've seen what death battle believes with Saitama already due to his popeye fight and we know that he gets stomped. Cosmic Fear Garou isn't enough of a buff to change things
>Saitama grows stronger constantly and surges exponentially when emotional and only reached galaxy-level shit from planetary or something over the course of the story
>Broly goes from planetary to multiversal in less than an hour of fighting
Yeah I don't think Saitama is winning this.
>Notice how they stay away from the real heated arguments and only do these one-sided stomps now.
This is why the Marvel wins over DC do not disprove their bias. They will never touch a REAL debatable match with characters above street level if they can't make DC win.
here's your Godzilla guys
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(Godzilla_Singular_Point_Novelization)
kinda mid
I don't want Madoka vs Sailor Moon to lose to Composited shit. Frick off with that
You’re late. Moondoka won last week.
BASED BEYOND BELIEF
>I'm late
It's not my fault they take so long to upoad to spotify and youtube their podcasts
Why the frick do I see Madoka in VS debates? She's not a fighter. And she's not omnipotent or anything either. A witch was able to split her in two in her God form. All she does is fire arrows, it'll be like putting an NPC to fight Yujiro Hanma. A better fight with be Homura vs Kiritsugu, thematically, narratively, though it's a stomp just like 99% Death Battles, at least the similarities are very apparent.
You literally see her fight more in previous timelines and the movie than Makima does.
>Homura, a literal universal demon/goddess who even without her goddess form is a magical lich that can only be truly damaged by hitting her gem weakspot for massive damage that Kiritsugu wouldn't know about with the ability to stop time for a frickton of time and a small army's worth of weapons vs...
>A guy who can nearly kill himself to make himself a whole four times faster than usual with a Calico Machine Pistol and a Thompson Contender with funny bullets that wouldn't do anything to Homura anyway. Also he wouldn't get his healing from Avalon due to no Saber.
This is the worst fricking match idea I think I've ever seen. They don't have any character similarities beyond "time powers" and 'lol urobutcher'. Homura is trying to protect Madoka and Madoka alone at the expense of the world for selfish reasons. Kiritsugu wants to 'save the world' no matter the personal cost and will sacrifice his loved ones to accomplish that.
Feel bad.
If you want a match for Homura, then at least use Nox or something, and restrict Hammyru's demon form.
Kiritsugu is for Frank Castle.
Whens the next choice batch
>Planet destroying alien
>vs dude who can transform into a tank
What did you think would happen?
Death Battle's biggest detractors are Dragonball fans. They're trying to win them over now. Ben Singer was even punched irl by a dragonball fan.
qrd????
I genuinely don't get why this needed a match. Yet it's getting better views than everything else. I guess the show just has to be stupid to do well. Explains Gojo vs. Makima.
>Explains Gojo vs. Makima
That’s just highly requested and also actually a slight coin flip. I’m surprised that you guys haven’t realized that the most popular MU’s are the ones with barely any connections.
>But anon how is it a close fight!!
Gojo doesn’t have existence erasure, I have no idea where that lie came from, so he can’t wipe Makima out like Denji did to win instantly.
Makima has ways to get through Infinity with Control, Bang, and BFR. Even though Gojo can somewhat resist Control by lobotomizing himself, it won’t save him from being constantly dominated on repeat.
Makima’s multiple lives will remain even if the Jap PM is dead, and it’s not even a 1 to 1 exchange so she can keep going even if Gojo kills her 126 million times.
They both have wincons and both of them somewhat rely on interpretation.
Gojo vs. Makima is stupid because it has the least thematics of any DB match.
True! It’s a moronic matchup with the only theme being “I am strong and sad” which is already a stretch, but I will still debate it because I want it to set up Denji vs Yuji.
>Gojo doesn’t have existence erasure, I have no idea where that lie came from, so he can’t wipe Makima out like Denji did to win instantly.
Even if you argue it isn't, Makima does not have cursed energy reinforcement and she has many physical durability anti-feats. It's possible for her to be completely annihilated with a larger Purple.
>Makima has ways to get through Infinity with Control, Bang, and BFR
These can work though Makima likely wouldn't succeed with Control and may even give up when she clearly can't show dominance there.
>Makima’s multiple lives will remain even if the Jap PM is dead, and it’s not even a 1 to 1 exchange so she can keep going even if Gojo kills her 126 million times.
This is going to highly depend on DB, ball is in their court to decide if both Japans are the same, have same PMs, etc.
Makima’s durability has never been her strong suit. She’s a glass cannon, but she’s one that can regenerate from fatal blows in less than a second or project whatever damage and death she experienced onto someone else with her chains. If she wanted, she could make a random Civvie take a Purple for her.
>and may even give up when she clearly can't show dominance there.
That’d unironically be OOC. When Angel revolted, she immediately put him back under Control. She wouldn’t give up because it failed a few times, she spent decades enamored with Pochita while trying to Control him.
> both Japans are the same, have same PMs, etc.
That’s not really necessary unless the argument of “will Gojo be affected by the contract” comes up, which itself is a dumb argument because the deaths she experiences don’t count as deaths to a random schmuck. They CAN be deaths, but it’s usually misfortune or things like that, so the Japans being the same don’t matter much, especially since Makima can directly project her damage into Gojo with the chains if his barrier goes down when he does a Domain or RCT.
>but she’s one that can regenerate from fatal blows in less than a second or project whatever damage and death she experienced onto someone else with her chains. If she wanted, she could make a random Civvie take a Purple for her
She needs something to come back from though right? As far as I know, getting completely destroyed in CSM sends you to Hell where you need to reincarnate back to Earth.
>That’d unironically be OOC. When Angel revolted, she immediately put him back under Control
He couldn't escape it again so we don't know how she would actually interact with someoe who could constantly escape, for fight purposes she would likely give up control spam and move to other means. You're right about her being enamored with Pochita but that can be explained with her never being able to control him in the first place.
>That’s not really necessary unless the argument of “will Gojo be affected by the contract” comes up
Well it will come up, it's one of his lose conditions. I can see him losing by burning through jap citizens during unlimited void until chance takes him out.
She does need a part of her to remain in order to regenerate, but in terms of her contract it’s more vague. The worst she’s come back from is Pochita cutting her into sushi, so I don’t think it’s fully reasonable to say that her contract would allow her to return from complete vaporization based on what’s shown. However, that’s negligible since her damage transfer with the chains is still an instant action, and her regen is fast enough to keep her in the fight long enough to teleport away from a dangerous blow.
Makima needs to deem herself > her opponent (which is her constant mindset), they don’t need to see themself as lesser. Gojo’s personality doesn’t matter because what he thinks will not affect what she can do.
>Bang and BFR can't bypass infinity, these are attacks that travel a distance
Bang travels no distance (it’s telekinetic) and BFR = Battle Field Removal, dumb dumb. Her sending someone to Hell is BFR, and it’s done via a giant grab. Gojo can still be pushed, pulled, and grabbed with Infinity so it’s not like he can’t be sent to Hell where he’ll be faced off against other Devils with no distance attacks like Falling or Darkness.
He would need to kill her more than 126 million times, by the way. Makima dying =/= someone else dies, and regardless that’d still be 3+ years of killing without him ever considering the option of spamming domains (which itself would backfire since Makima can transfer the negatives of the attack to someone else she’s connected to).
>Realistically, one max blue or red could kill Makima,
Uh…yeah. Her entire deal is dying but it not sticking because of her contract. That’s how it works. His only actual way of bypassing the contract is Purple, and even then it’s debatable if it’ll work since 1. It’s not existence erasure and 2. Damage transfer.
Makima's control will never work on someone as egoistic and honoured like Gojo.
Bang and BFR can't bypass infinity, these are attacks that travel a distance, it doesn't bypass or warp space.
He has enough stamina to kill 126 million times because of six eyes efficiency, as long as he doesn't spam domain expansion which will exhaust him.
Realistically, one max blue or red could kill Makima, her durability isn't impressive. Gojo just has to spam it or maintain domain expansion till everyone is brain dead. This is not a close fight
Yeah but can Frieza transform into GUNsama? I thought not...
Reminder that there are AT LEAST 76 billion timelines in Dragon Ball Heroes.
So why didn't they get 76 billion Gokus, Vegetas, Gohans and Trunkses to nuke the bad guy?
Because CC Goku and Xeno Goku are that much stronger than all the others.
It's like asking why don't you send 30530529 Supermen to frick somebody up when you can just use Prime/Earth 1 Superman.
So what, they're too strong to have divergent copies? If Goku picks rice over beans and orange juice over chocolate milk for supper that should make a different timeline with an equivalent Goku. That is the implication of a multiverse story on the level I'm expected to believe
Well, they're acausal when working for Time Patrol.
Also if you get too many Vegetas or Gokus in the same place they WILL start to self-sabotage themselves just to fight each other.
Gogeta let himself be absorbed once just so he could fight himself because he sensed there was another Gogeta nearby.
I guarantee you that billions of waku wakus all at once would make any villain keel over and surrender
>waku waku
N'CHA!
I just rewatched Heroes Trunks analysis. Jesus Christ, the research team really is something.
>they don't know that Beat's world isn't our "real" world, it is just similar to ours
>there is a realm/world beyond Beats's world that is a real world
>first they claimed that Heroes has no infinite timelines, but during the end, they say it has
The frick?
Reminder, Hulk the STRONGEST there is!
power level homosexualry was muddied but manageable back in the dbz era but holy frick you're moronic for wasting time on this shit in the modern moronic super/heroes era jesus christ
these generals shouldnt even be allowed and not just on account of being inherently powerlevel autism and thus distasteful to any reasonable human being
Reminder, Lobo solos King Zarathos Daredevil.
Frick their research team.
>Fu states there are infinite timelines
>RoF SSB Goku can kill Mira w/ Tokitoki absorbed
>Tokitoki is the power of all timelines
>Golden Freeza scales above RoF SSB Goku
HOLY FUARK my fricking VILLAIN is so STRONG
Ew Geekdom101
>Street Sharks vs Ninja Turtles
Enter
Ninja Turtles
>trained in ninjitsu and kung fu and karate
>have weapons and gadgets
>fast
Street Sharks
>other worldly strength
>giant frick you teeth
>one can cause fricking massive earthquakes
>swim through concrete
Dinosaurs
>just as strong as the sharks
>natural weapons (Spikes' horns, Stegz's buzzsaw move, T-Bone's teeth, Bullzeye's sonic screech and flight)
>One of them alone can cause a slammu level earthquake
>if all four stomp at the same time, they cause a city leveling earthquake
Gargoyals
>strong, but not Dinos/shark level of strong
>can fly
>animalistic fighting
Would be a kick ass royal rumble.
Why are people just now taking Heroes scaling literally? It's way less of a stretch than the stupid multiversal scaling DB does for Super because they genuinely do have villains stronger than Zeno, so pretending Goku is sultringer than Zeno isn't lore breaking in Heroes.
>Jimmy vs Dexter
>they're going to do the same shit as Stitch vs Rocket and scale Jimmy to piloting his rocket going in FTL speeds
guys does Dexter have any good travel feats because I fear Cheese Ray may be a valid outcome
I know there's that episode where he's stuck in an alien prison in another galaxy and Deedee has to save him with his tech. Can't remember how they actually traveled though.
They'll just scale his tech to Monkey
Are they still dragging their ass having Maka kill Ruby?
Street Sharks and Extreme Dinosaurs are part of the same universe so their feats are interchangeable.
Dinovengers from the crossover
>Aliens
Extreme Dinosaurs
>actual dinosaurs transformed into humanoids
They're not the same.
No sonic watch out that's a hydraulic press!
OH MY GOD HE'S GOT AIRPODS IN HE CAN'T HEAR ME.
>people actually having fun posting a speculative royal rumble between actual cartoon characters
>3 spergs still sperg out about dragon sperg z.
People are idiots but the people in Biker Mice should ironically be building level. The main villain had a running gag where he got smashed down by his own building every episode
BK is dead btw
I wonder how will Ozotto work in Heroes? His main gimmick was shapeshifting in that one game, but it seems that he now has an ability to absorb powers of different species.
Mama mia! Jiren is beyond time!!!!!
ENCHAD
Why stop at just Sharks, Dinosaurs, Turtles, Gargoyals and Mice?
Let's get this rumble STARTED.
All characters, heroes and villains, from their collective series take part too.
If we’re going Battletoads, Pimple might have an axe. I do like the idea of them meeting the Biker Mice given the rats on motorcycles form the Dark Queen. But it takes 3 of them to smash up a jet so they might unironically be fricked
I’ve said it before and I’lll say it again, the size disparity is just funny as hell. Pimple is over 2 feet taler than Raphael
Welp time to start reporting every Jiren post again.
>announcing a report
Skin that b***h alive.
Maybe stop shitting up the thread and stay on topic?
>mindbroken jirentard coping
>parroting
Kek.
>jirentard is a schizoid
Kekaroo!
>s-s-s-schizo
Good pup.
>jirentard continues his mindbroken seething
Jiren? Surpassed.
>SHITRENSHITRENSHITREN
KEK.
>the jirentard is fully broken
Kek.
>JIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIREN
Mindbroken.
>parroting
KEKAROO!
>he didn't understand the point of my post
Grand Paco.
>t-t-t-th-
KEK. Jirentards are embarrassing.
>admits that he can't read
KWAB!
>(headcanon)
Poor little jirengay!
>"muh headcanon"
Keep crying.
>trying to pass headcanon off as real
LMAOOO
jirentards? moeshitters in disguise
>Grand Taco babble
>jirencope
Kneel, SPICper.
>Grand Taco Hispanic is projecting
Kek.
>no answer
Not even gonna bother to take your concession, jirentard. I've got a whole book shelf's worth of them.
>he FLED
KWAB!
You can't defeat /dbs/scholars because they are immune to normal human reasoning. They have transcended logic.
I would know, anon.
Anybody else noticed that Otto's website has the same initials as Chris-chan?
Cape-World Comics, CWC?
Chris Weston Chandler?
It's funny cause Jirengays thinks all those powers Jiren showcased in the manga and anime are 'new' and 'original', when Ultramen, starting with Tiga, where doing the same shit.
>please read my moeshit
No.
>ultraman
>moeshit
lmao jirencucks are embarrassing
>"reading" ultraman
It's a live action tv show, Jirengay. AND what inspired Jiren in the first place. Until Jiren shows any abilities that an Ultraman hasn't showcased since 1966, he's not impressive.
>watch my moeshit
No.
>moeshit
Anime is moeshit.
You know. Like DBZ.
True. CHADgon CHAD is for real men only. Everything else? Moeshit.
Let's see.
>Ultraman was a big inspiration to Akira Toriyama, and a total of 18 Ultraman series was released before he even made Dragon Ball.
>30 Ultra series where released before Jiren was even made.
Form changes? A saiyan going super saiyan? You can thank the Ultra series for that. You're welcome.
>please watch my moeshit
No.
This is such cope. Lmfao
Dragon Ball WAS journey to the west, until it started taking shit from Ultraman blatantly. Hell, does this look familiar?
>admits that Ultraman is moeshit and that CHADgon CHAD took inspiration from wuxia and JTTW
Easy.
>All the beam projectiles that makes Dragon Ball Z what it is where taken from Ultraman
Chichi's first appearance, she uses the Eye Slugger, the blade from Ultraseven.
Krilin's destructo disk where directly taken from Ultraman's Blade Beam. So on and so forth.
Remind me, where in Journey to the West have a little girl using an Eyeslugger and Emerium Beam (placing two fingers on either side of her head gem to fire a beam) from Ultraseven, to take out a kaiju?
>moeshit from OG Dragon Ball comes from SHITraman, while the real deal is from JJTW and Wuxia
Based Toriyama mocking Ultra gimps.
Cope. This is such cope. You're literally seething. >JIREN'S INSPIRED BY THE GRAY ALIENS
No. He's gray and red. Ultraman's silver and red.
>the series that inspired akira toriyama for dragon ball is moe shit somehow
Journey to the West?
Jiren es un debilucho. Toda la gloria a las rapaces mexicanas.
My Heroine Amy has a better Death Battle record than Goku.
>JIREN'S SO STRONG
>can't even slice Goku in half
Meanwhile, in Ultraman? Monsters get dismembered constantly.
>punches a hole clean through one monster
>slices another in half.
Makima stomps
You can bullshit base Momoshiki to universal. There's a statement where he says karma can amp multiple times their original power. There's even one where he says karma is the conbination of multiple planets worth of life.
Just saying, but they're giving the multiplier benefit to Dragon Ball, there are other series that do this as well.
>Naruto apes need to hyperwank their verse to hit even the lowest levels of universal power
Speaking of universal power
>when a multi-verse level bomb was set off, this guy saved the entire multiverse by becoming the multiverse
Did Jiren ever do something like that?
I'm not the Jirengay but Jiren does scale above Infinite Zamasu who became the Future timeline's multiverse and was spreading to other timelines.
>became a single universe
>only ""scaling"" is tardku thinking he can win with a bean
>Infinite Zamasu who became the Future timeline's multiverse
He didn't even do this in the main canon, the manga.
The DBS anime predates the DBS manga. And in the context of Death Battle they would be composited anyways.
>Zeno erases the entire multiverse
>Zamasu leaks into other timelines before other universes in his current timeline
Okay buddy.
>The DBS anime predates the DBS manga.
Then why are they using manga only characters?! Black Freeza isn't in the anime.
Anon, have you been paying attention? They aren't using just the manga. They use the Toei anime and DBS anime. They even bring up Freeza resisting destruction energy, something that happened in the anime and not manga.
No.
They composite DBS anime and manga. They used Ultra Ego Vegeta with their anime multipliers when he fought Thor
>SHITraman gay needed to kill himself to do that
>GODren is simply stronger than that by existing
Kek.
No he's not. He can't even dismember other fighters. He can't outright kill any of the Z fighters no matter how hard he tries.
Meanwhile, Ultraman's been lobbing heads off and tearing limbs off his enemies since 1966.
>tournament has no kill rule
>"muh duh he can't kill people like my moeshit
The smartest SHITraman gay.
You can dismember and not kill, gayren.
>slave to tournament rules
jirensissy lmao
>gaysgaysgaysgays
Kek. Mindbroken. I would be too if I was forgotten like Ultraman.
>forgotten
>Ultraman Blazar, 2023-2024
>Ultraman Netflix movie
>ULTRAMAN manga still going
>ULTRAMAN Manga inspired anime still going
>Ultraman and Ultraseven officially appearing at Comic-con
Yep. Forgotten.
Yes. Forgotten. At the bottom.
One Piece bros...Naruto bros...Ultraman bros...Gundam bros...Kamen Rider bros...Super Sentai bros...Anpanmanbros...Pretty Cure bros...What the FRICK have we been doing?
Uh, Gundam's actually doing better then DBZ from the chart. A whopping five percent better.
Kek. Those are forcasts. We will see when the real results come out.
>DBSpicope
Kekaroo!
>lacks reading comprehension
>(headcanon)
Kekaroo!
>he still cannot read
Kek.
>still (headcanon)
Don't bother trying to re-enter the halls, jirentard
Your kind isn't welcome there anymore.
>"please stop bullying me"
Little RAT!!
>even more (headcanon)
Kek. No wonder all you jirengays got BTFO.
>constant parroting
All you got?
>doesn't even know how to use words correctly
Kekaroo!
>"I am moronic"
I know that you are.
>schizo headcanon
jirentard...
>s-s-schizo
>jirencope
Kekaroo!
>c-c-cope
Kek.
>the jirentard continues coping
>c-c-coping
>mindbroken
sad, like all jirengays!
>s-s-s-sad
Kek.
>k-k-kek
lol
>l-l-l-lol
KWAB!!
>k-k-kw-kwa-
lmao
>l-l-l-lmao
Kekaroo.
>k-k-ke-keka-
roflmao
>r-r-r-roflmao
KEKAPEKA!
>k-k-k-kek-keka-ke-kekap-
HOLY KEKAROO!
>H-H-H-HOLY
KEAROOONY!!
>k-k-ke-
hahaha
>-h-h-haha
>no reply
Concession accepted!
>c-c-concession
Be quiet, mutt. You already conceded.
>m-m-m-mutt
>mutt can't even follow orders
Oh well, we'll just have to take this one behind the barn.
>b-b-b-barn
>*BLAM*
>b-b-bitch
That's (you)!
Jobber b***h.
>2022.3
DB is 127.6
Gundam is 101.7
>2023.3 1st Half
DB is 65.7
Gundam is 62.4
>2023.3 Full
DB is 144.5
Gundam is 131.3
What am I missing? Are you looking at the FORECASTS for 2024?
Gee, it's almost like... Ultraman's mother company, Tsuburaya productions, is recovering from some sort of... Taiwanese attempt to claim ownership of their series, preventing it from becoming world wide famous. Some company called...I dunno, Chaiyo or something. And that this trial went on since 1974.
Like, maybe the trial even got solved in 2018.
>Ultraman has all these projects
>makes zero money
>Dragon Ball has no new content since 2018, gets a single movie last year, makes more money than Ultraman and other IPs
This is Dragon Ball with a content drought BTW.
Yeah, cause that money is being used to fricking repair the damage Chaiyo caused with their lawsuits. Whole thing was a clusterfrick. Now everything Chaiyo made is legally owned by Tsuburaya and their company owner died.
>Ultraman is poor
Well, that sucks. Now excuse me, I am just waiting for Capsule Corp Tokyo so that Dragon Ball can go full capeshit.
>Dragon Ball going the route of continuity VOMIT like Cinemaphile properties
Good god that sounds awful. At least give us some stories about lesser used characters in exchange.
Only 11D and 5D? Pathetic. my D is 16.
Excuse me while I enjoy shaking hands with Ultraman OFFICIALLY at New York Comic Con while this is the only representation Jiren gets at said event.
>Cosplayer who predominantly dresses as LITERALLY every Saiyan Mutt
You lost.
>ponygay
>sonictard
>overcuck
man this guy really just ticks off all the boxes
Didn't he also cosplay as Green Lantern?
Guess he likes children then.
>no anon, the random costumed man you met on the street in NYC to take a picture in with and immediately asked for a tip was not Ultraman
>he wants dragon ball to be capeshit
>he wants Dragon Ball to go capeshit
Yes, unironically yes. Frick Shueisha and that fat frick CEO. They just want to leech the money Dragon Ball brings while doing nothing. Toei literally wanted to make a new Dragon Ball after the Broly movie but Shueisha said no. Frick them. Seeing that Iyoku is on stage, he probably managed to snag the anime rights. More specials/movies and anime on the way. Frick Shueisha.
Listen I'm all for more DB stories and if we can get shit to wank DB with then cool but I'm very concerned about the idea of them doing an eleventy-billion what-if continuities like DC/Marvel SLOP. If it's cool shit like a series with a Freeza Force soldier protagonist, a series exploring Universe 6, a Goten and Trunks anime an dso on then I don't give a shit.
Give me shit that expands the current universe. I don't fricking want a billion shitty continuities bloating the franchise. Xeno, GT and the DBS anime/manga split is bad enough.
That is what Iyoku and CCT want to do. Hell, if the leaks are true. Magic will literally have Goku explore universes and possibly demon realm. I would rather that Dragon Ball dies by oversaturation in 20 years, than to be dripfed by Shueisha for 50.
Which would be great but I am concerned it will devolve into Cinemaphile-tier shit in time.
Personally I just want them to unify the canon continuity as like:
>Minus -> Jaco -> DB -> Z -> DBS -> DBO -> XV
Then make stories from that shit. DBO has tons of great ideas by Toriyama that I'd love to see animated. Even a story set during DBO with a new cast of characters would be cool.
Who knows what the frick is going on there. I have faith TTT (Toei, Toriyama, Toyotaro) are building up to something big with Zalama, the Namekians and their relations to the rest of existence so we'll see.
2 more days. We will see what will be announced. The main topic is the future of Dragon Ball.
>special guest appearance is by Ultraman who is also at the same comic con
>him and goku shake hands
Nah, it is Iyoku. That was revealed a few days ago. Probably a offical introduction to Capsule Corp Tokyo.
It'll be worse. They'll announce the new dubbing team for DBZ with Chris Pratt as Goku, since the Japanese think he's so cool.
Am I too greedy to ask for Xenoverse 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 4, the next manga arc, DB Magic and some teasers for CCT projects all from this one panel?
I said he doesn't scale to 5D. There is just 'some' argument for him with Angels claiming he can destroy everything on a whim. Which can be extrapolated to include the potentially 5D cosmology.
With Super Shenron I believe the argument is far stronger because the Grand Priest claims Super Shenron can grant any wish and even the Zenos have backed that claim. And I doubt the literal highest beings of the timeline are ignorant of how their own cosmology functions.
>Am I too greedy to ask for Xenoverse 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 4, the next manga arc, DB Magic and some teasers for CCT projects all from this one panel?
I don't really know. Would be cool? Teaser of a new manga arc, web anime reveal and possibly a new movie teaser might be there. Maybe more. Best to wait 2 more days.
>everything Chaiyo made is owned by Tsuburaya
>Hanuman
>Hanuman was the inspiration of Son WuKong
>Son Wukong inspired Son Goku
Goku is literally owned by Ultraman. Lmfao
>admits that JJTW is the real deal and that Ultraman is moeshit
>Hanuman was the inspiration of Son WuKong
This is speculative, to say the least.
>Gee it's almost like Ultraman is poor
Okay...?
it's been a while but i think it was just the universe. i'm still waiting for any of the z fighters to destroy a universe... or anything bigger than a planet
It was the whole timeline. Even Whis and Beerus comment from the present that Zamasu is starting to affect the present timeline too.
>zamasuverso starts bleeding into another universe
Simple as
i was addressing the ultraman king thing
>It was the whole timeline
No, it was just ONE universe. He didn't cross past to ZenO's realm.
Zeno's palace is outside time and space. Like the crack of time. Zamasu merged with the entire timeline, Zeno's place was just outside of it.
>Zeno's palace is outside time and space.
Then how come there's one ZenO for each timeline?!
Only Angels are able to go to Zeno's palace. It is no reachable to others. Zamasu simply engulfed the entire timeline while not being able to reach Zeno's palace.
Sure, but if he lives outside of space and time, why is there one of them for each timeline?
I was actually mistaken on the first part. He is a part of the timeline, but his palace/realm is only accessible for angels. It cannot be reached by others(as of now).
Unironically there is an argument that the DB cosmology is 5D with a higher time axis that manages the timelines. Which would explain why Zeno's realm (which is outside of spacetime along with other shit like the World of Void and Neutral Space between universes) is effected by timelines.
And nah I'm not trying to wank DB by claiming that. No character scales to that argument besides maybe Super Shenron and maybe some argument for Zeno.
You are also forgetting that Namekians have been retconned into not being native into Dragon Ball multiverse. Who the frick knows where they are from. Namekians are like the beyonder visiting the marvel universe.
that makes no sense!!! they need water to survive!!!
ZenO can only affect the universes he's part of, not the entire timeline. He can't even travel to a different timeline on his own. Ergo, he isn't a reak 5D character.
No, I said BASE Momoshiki is at universal level since he made a dimension. At that level he can already amp his attacks multiple times, with Karma he goes far beyond that level.
Dragon Ball really isn't the only show with multipliers, it's just the only show Death Battle has decided to lend a help with the multiplier bullcrap logic.
The only multipliers I can recall for Naruto are the Curse Seal being stated to be a tenfold increase and the 8th Gate being a hundredfold increase.
And now the ones I'm telling you about.
You didn't bring up any multipliers. You just made one claim that wouldn't get MOEshiki to universal. What does 'multiple planets of life' mean to me? Nothing. That could be 2x. It could be 200x. What is the value? Where is the multiplier? What power is it multiplying?
>you have to spend money to get the q&a now
Did Speedy say who he's going to Spank for this fight?
when's the next poll? wanna see what other shit matches they got in their heads
We'll know by 2:15pm pst.
How do I get into Ultraman, where do I start?
Chronologically.
Entire series is on Tokushoutsu on Pluto Tv, and on Tubi.
Or you can support it fully by buying the Millcreek releases. Super affordable too, the most expensive one was like, 25 dollars.
Who wins this?
Robbie.
Death Battle isn't autistic enough. We need to introduce Rean Schwarzer!
Dragon Ball WASN'T inspired by Journey to the West, the original pitch was to have the character who'd become Goku as a literal half dragon child with a dragon tail and wings. And Bulma was a cowgirl complete with the six shooters and cowgirl hat.
for a split second i thought you meant an actual cow girl and i got excited about the prospect of suckling her udders
Okay but then they didn't go with that
Yeah, sorry, I just discovered this. Every fighter in this thread is garbage until they can secure a golden play button.
can i get a link?
>ultraman's 140 feet tall
Do you realize how much gold that is?
Lol they did a sequel when they hit two million.
So Tom VS Coyote won. Whats next?
I'm sure goku will win next ti-ACK!!
XENOku crushes the rat and his verse.
DB Magic will make the Archieverse look like a fricking SHED. Hopefully.
If the reveal is true, I really wouldn't go to Cinemaphile.
>Kid Goku and Kid Shin running around universes/dimensions trying to stop the demon that turned them into little boys
Yeah the shitposting is going to be crazy.
And I want it to expand the cosmology.
>nakatsuru is the character designer
New SS4/Wukong form incoming.
Magic is a spin-off to Super before EoZ.
>magic comes out
>debunks universal goku
Your reaction?
I cope with DBH and Xenoverse and embrace my galaxy-level canon kino.
>instead makes him outversal
Cool.
>Goku comes out of your computer monitor and knocks you out
HOLY FUARK
/dbs/ GODS mindBROKE you.
i see images with evil auras like that one every once in a while and they always have that effect
>Goku learns his clash with Beerus is actually what destroyed the 4 other universes, leading Grand Priest to pull strings behind the scenes to make Zeno conceive the Tournament of Power
That would actually be a pretty cool twist. Especially if it makes Goku upset to realise he ended up causing the deaths of countless people. Would justify the Z-Fighters going to U6 to get the Super DBs and restore them.
KWAB
>still no multipliers
Do you know many planets there are in a universe?
Well the manga already answered that with Beerus and Zeno, saying Xeno had destroyed the 4 because he couldn't find Beerus in a game of hide and seek. But the manga and anime are different enough so it shouldn't matter. But yeah since 17 wished back the "erased" universes, its always possible those 4 were brought back and have way different shit compared to 6 and 7
no multipliers
What does "cumulative" mean?
Yeah, Dragon Ball is being hard carried with bullshit Naruto has plenty.
Yeah I wonder. What does that mean? 'Cumulative' means nothing on its own. It even says right there that they build up power by devouring fruits using a planet's energy. 'Cumulative'.
So where is the proof that Momoshiki has accumulated that many worlds? What statements are there? Give me numbers. There are trillions of planets in our galaxy alone.
>Cumulative' means nothing on its own
In its own. But base Momoshiki can be jacked to universal, and then he ate his father's DNA to gain his power
That's addictive power.
>But base Momoshiki can be jacked to universal,
Okay...so how many planets has he actually ate?
>and then he ate his father's DNA to gain his power
You mean Kinshiki? Okay. How many planets did HE eat?
Death Battle isn't going to just hand them every planet in the universe for no reason and from what I can tell it'd take Momoshiki billions of years at least to devour each planet in a galaxy. Let alone a universe. You gotta substantiate it with numbers.
I don't care how many he ate. Momoshiki made a dimension before he ate his father. His father is just as strong as he was. If Ootsutsiki power is cumulative that's already a x2. Every time the kids activate their karmas they tap into this power.
>so how many planets has he actually ate?
He's literally introduced eating one.
Dragonbros maybe we don't need a sequel
i felt like i was having a nightmare scrolling down that image. my brain refused to process a lot of it at first
>961k views in 1 day
Supes? More like Soup!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH KEKPOOPY SHIT MAMA YOLO RENNY
>Supes? More like Soup!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH KEKPOOPY SHIT MAMA YOLO RENNY
Is this accurate?
Bejita is too tall. Broly is too short.
According to the sources it's this (Z and Super Broly are apparently the same heights)
Wonder how big Orange Piccolo is. He's 7' 5 in his base form. Orange increases his size substantially.
scale him off gohan blanco
Don't bother, I used the movie screenshot and overlayed it with the graph (Gohan is also 5'9), and he comes to like several inches below normal Piccolo
>piccolo SHRUNK
HOW
tbf he is putting his head down
Piccolo is hunched there and Gohan's head isn't pointing straight up.
>I don't care how many he ate.
Then why are you trying to scale him to universal from it?
>made a dimension
No he didn't. Only Kaguya has anything like that and even then 'her' dimensions are just her territories, it's never stated she made them. The most you have is her destroying one of those dimensions and that's via outside help absorbing energy from other people in her God Tree. Which wouldn't be allowed in Death Battle, it's outside help.
The absolute most you're getting with these arguments is Kaguya being baseline universal with outsiders amping her and some vague argument that Momoshiki absorbing Kinshiki gives him that same level of power.
Seriously even if I give you the benefit of doubt here that's still 2x universal at best.
Yeah, I know. How many tho? He's trying to scale Momoshiki's planet eating to a universal multiplier.
Yeah that's what I said
, I'm saying the shots from the movie aren't very good for getting his actual height
Would be nice to get the models ripped from the movie itself. Maybe BT4 will have them.
>Then why are you trying to scale him to universal from it?
Trying? I already told you, base Momoshiki is universal, even before he ate his father.
He made his dimension.
>Trying?
Yes? You're trying to use his planet eating to make him universal yet you don't substantiate anything to indicate he's eaten that many planets. Where is the universal feat? Where are the statements that he ate a universe's worth of planets? (Which wouldn't even make him universal to begin with)
>He made his dimension.
No he didn't.
>No he didn't.
Yes he did lol.
>narutard lies
You're telling me Vegeta is the size of a 13 year old boy?
>Seiya gay is observing little boys
Seiya is 13
>Seiya is about little boys
What the frick?
Yeah all the main characters are teens
He's a little fellah
Gohan Blanco's hair is at least a foot taller than base (Probably close to 7') and Orange Piccolo looks like he could be a foot or two taller. So via eyeballing it seems like 9' is reasonable.
Make Broly literally twice as tall as Vegeta
Too much anime and not enough Cinemaphile in this thread.