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>what if...star wars, but written by a 5 year old...and dragons
There was some unironically cool stuff in there too. The Razac being super predators that chased humans out of their original home, the soldiers that had their ability to feel pain or disobey orders, even the shades were all cool stuff that was new to me when I read it. Also Jill Valentine was hot as frick
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I remember a plot thread I liked from book 2 onward was shell-shocked king Orrin of Surda, who went from being a lovable naive scientist to a grizzled veteran who gradually stops caring about anything except the friends he lost and his birthright, only to see it stolen by a sassy black girl in the end. By the end of book 4, he ends up being so jaded and disgusted by everyone around him that you can't help but sympathize.
>By the end of book 4, he ends up being so jaded and disgusted by everyone around him
Kek, I remember that.
>we dwarves and elves all agree that humans should choose their own leader
>but if you choose Orrin instead of Nasuada we'll go to war with you and kill you all, hehe
I remember the author tried to portray Orrin in a negative light by sidelining him, overruling his decisions and making him into a drunkard, but it didn't really work and kind of has the opposite effect, everyone else just look like they're being buttholes to him for no reason.
kek is this why disney+ is picking this shit up? i bet nasuada is gonna be a main character and she's gonna end up actually being a secret rider or take jormunders place and be the one to steal the eggs or some shit. i guarantee its gonna be something along those lines
I mean, she's a black girl. As big as her role was in the books, you can be certain it's going to get inflated even more.
Man I remember this gay chris paolinis parents were both profession editors and basically got his book published for him, using the fact that a kid "wrote" it to add fuel to the marketing machine. What a stupid clown nepotism world we live in.
except he did write it and his parents were impressed
The parents published the book but they were a tiny company and Paolini had to go on a self funded """book tour""" that only paid off when some random girl took a liking to the book and brought it to her bigshot children author uncle's attention
Just so you know, he makes minecraft videos on youtube now
I'm... not joking...
the frick is this?
i never knew this fantasy existed
Shit fantasy book from the early 00's allegedly written by a child. It had a terrible movie adaptation already in like 2006
Who pushed it? His parents?
I liked the books.
I love the absolute seethe that Eragon caused.
All these old losers whose books never succeeded or were butthurt that a young guy wrote a book.
See? Just a bunch of losers who have never accomplished anything seething over the fact that a younger person made a successful book series.
Get off Cinemaphile, Christopher
wow wtf this post changed my mind eragon is a good book now!
they're shitty YA novels. what exactly is there to seethe about?
Terrible vidya adaption of the movie as well
I liked the books although I never read the 3rd (4th? whichever one was bsinger it released after I got caught up and I never went back)
GBA version of Eragon was surprisingly good but only because it took a lot from the books
>gba game is better than the home console games
many such cases
It's very bad. I got it for Christmas as a kid and dropped it. You can tell it's written by a teenager.
No, no no no
Doubt we will get a Princess Arya that hot now which was the only reason to watch it
she was a tease!
Book Arya
>olive skin, green eyes, long black hair, wears tight fitting black leather outfit, is badass as frick, can easily beat the shit out of dozens of humans at once, you can immediately tell she's an elf when you see her
Movie Arya
>blonde human looking damsel in distress in a white dress
they fricked her up, just like every single other thing
>got whitewashed
who knew the Eragon movie was fricking based?
I think she was supposed to be close to asian, I always thought the Elves in Eragon were inspired by japs for some reason.
It just reads like Paolini had yellow fever, but tbf he was nerdy white teen
Why did the author just steal Aragorn's name from LOTR?
Because he did
I thought it was just the word Dragon with a letter changed.
it is, he had a thing for using older language like norse and latin, and i believe he figured the word eragon means that it doesn't matter when you read it, it displaces you in time.
I'm still seething that the series ended without at least a kiss between Eragon and Arya.
that shit blue balls the audience so hard, like dude just saved the last bastion with a fricking dragon, doesn't plant a wet one on her
are you serious? i never read the last book it never got resolved?
Arya tells Eragon that if he still loves her in a few decades time she'll hook up with him. Then Eragon leaves Alagaesia forever while she remains behind to be queen of the elves.
At least Saphira gets some. Arya gets a male dragon and Saphira bangs him literally 5 seconds after meeting him.
No lmao they aped the LOTR ending and eragon leaves for parts unknown
he goes to set up a dragon jedi temple with his new dragon eggs.
he negotiated a new contract with dragons that includes elves and dwarves and gives them an egg too before leaving.
I think its because Chris Paolini is one of those really uptight Christian dudes that thinks kissing is the devil unless you're married.
Then he should have pulled a Sanderson and had them get married
That fricking virgin doesn't know enough about romance to even conceptualize how people even frick let alone get married.
I know those types of people and intimacy terrifies them.
I always assumed he's atheist considering the elves he jerks off so much also are ones.
I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he was a well behaved little church kid. Probably not hardcore Bible thumpers but he definitely lived an extremely sheltered life. From what I remember of the book it definitely reads like that.
He is a fedora atheist, that's why his Elves are also fedora atheists. They're also vegans and furgays. Can you guess why?
One of Tortellini's characters is a blue furred wolf-elf who women are uncomfortable being around because he emits a musk that makes them horny and no I am not making any of that up.
Oh idk I must have misread or misheard some shit. Maybe its because a bunch of weird church kids I knew growing up liked the book. I haven't read that shit or thought about that autist since the year the book came out which was almost 20 years ago. I barely remember the story too I just remember the characters being massive homosexuals.
Book written by a beta handles romance like a beta
No kiss but there was a joke about Eragon trying to look up her skirt iirc
>tfw they got drunk together on some magical Elvish booze and were clearly going to frick but then the Empire attacked
I'm still mad
I don't remember that but it sounds like something Galbatorix would do. I always thought Eragon should have got with the Varden leader girl though, she was cool
Should have ended with Eragon violently impregnating Arya via mating press while Broms force ghost smiles and nods in thr corner.
>its canon Eragon never fricked and died a virgin
It's just not fair,
Jesus Christ up in heaven.
I lost all hope when I saw Artemis Fowl.
At least somehow Series of Unfortunate Events turned out decent.
I've always wanted a video game sequel to this series where you make your own dragon rider and get your own dragon.
that would be sick. i liked how the game had drop in drop out local multiplayer co-op. all games need that.
I am embarrassed to admit how much I liked its video game adaption back then.
so which characters are getting diversified?
I hope none. There are two black major characters already.
>he thinks already having black characters and diverse separate cultures means there won’t be race lifts
Anon, I…
The main character will be a black guy. Love interest is a white guy.
they'll make whatshisname a Wise Black. Or maybe the blue dragon will speak in ebonics.
Dammit, whatshisname was my favorite character, I used to jerk off to them all the time.
I have to be fricked in the head, because I find the idea of dragon with a personality of sassy black girl very funny.
Why would they make Saphira speak in ebonics? Nobody speaks in ebonics in House of the Dragon or The Rings of Power. Why would they do it for an Eragon movie, unless they're intentionally aiming the movie at kids?
inclusion nyukka.
Talking dragons are always sassy black people. Blame Disney.
>it's spelt Saphyra chud!
When I was a kid I pronounced Eragon as "E-rag-on" and I still feel stupid over that
some people pronounce ISOs as "ice-o" so dont feel too embarrassed chief
i read the first book and also watched the movie when it came out, shit was really bad and it was marketed as "a young person wrote it" and kids read it because they wanted to be inspired to write their own book too. it sucks so bad. its like impressive for a kid but its by no means any good.
theres a scene where the dragon accidentally singes the main charector with fire breath.
And the maincharector complains. and the dragon literally says "imagine if everytime you moved your elbow to a certain angle you shot fire, how would that make you feel?"
and the main charector literally apologizes. its a fricking mess.
Maybe its because I read it when I was also a young teenager, but I loved the books alot. I haven't read the last one since I haven't read anything for like 15 years now, is it worth to read it?
IIRC the final volume is a bit disappointing with some good moments, probably not worth reading unless you read the whole series again and want closure.
>Maybe its because I read it when I was also a young teenager, but I loved the books alot.
You really do need to read it between the age of 7-14 otherwise don't even bother picking it up. That age range makes it a lot more special then it actually was.
That's not that far removed from some liberal rhetoric today
The series should have ended with Eragon becoming the immortal emperor of the land and banging Saphira every day until she somehow gets knocked up and creates a dynasty of half-elf/dragon hybrids.
This. Eragon had more chemistry with Saphira than he did with the generic elf b***h. But that's too fricking out there for normies to accept, so I understand why it didn't end that way and why probably no fantasy story ever will outside of some obscure porn game or erotica.
stupid and gay, you should feel bad
Can we get a Lagolas and Gimly buddy cop style spinoff too?
sienna guillory was hot in it.
I liked the first book, although I stopped reading them after the fourth
I remember I started reading the books because of the movie, that final fight between the dragon and the black cloud was the most epic shit when I was a kid
jesus christ
what?
*Ardwen - Arwen
*Isenstar - Isengard
*Mithrim - Mithrim or mithril
*Angrenost - Angrenost
*Morgothal - Morgoth
*Elessari - Elessar
*Furnost - Fornost
*Hadarac - Harad
*Melian - Melian
*Vanilor - Valinor
*Eridor - Eriador
*Imiladris - Imladris
*Undin - Fundin/Udun
*Gil'ead - Gil'Galad
*Ceranthor - Caranthir
*Isidar - Isildir
*Oromis - Orome
*Eragon - Aragorn
FYI Christopher Tortellini was not 15 when he wrote his shitty Star Wars/LotR fan fiction, he was 15 when he "imagined" it. He actually wrote it between the ages of 18 and 19. Then unfortunately for mankind his wealthy and doting parents self-published their autistic spawn's literary abortion instead of leaving it to languish on fanfiction.net where it rightfully belongs. Then they went on a book tour, lying to everyone about how old the author was when he wrote it and hyping it as the work of a "prodigy" until it was picked up by a mainstream publisher and became a bestseller.
Since they were editors they probably wrote most of the book themselves. 18 year olds don't know frick all about the world and couldn't write anything as good as Eragon. Not saying its good but you can tell it was heavily edited and revised, probably by his parents.
>as good as Eragon
Fricking purple prose is not good writing.
He’s still got a point imo, writing an entire book is outside the scope of an 18 year old. The fact he didn’t write anything other than that franchise until he was much older supports what he’s saying. He only recently wrote another book, in his 30s.
>writing an entire book is outside the scope of an 18 year old
Teenagers have literally written fanfiction longer than War and Peace dumbass. Anyone can write. You can write, you're doing it right now
i am keking so hard at everyone saying he couldnt write the book at 18, he fricking wrote it at 15. is everyone so fricking incompetent now? get off the internet you degenerating gays
He wrote the book at 19 you stupid homosexual. He """""imagined""""" it at 15.
I didn't say it was good writing, I just said that a 15 or 18 year old or whatever generally isn't a good enough writer to make something like that. If he started pumping out other shit after Eragon then you could say that he is a budding artist learning his craft but that wasn't the case just like what
said.
His parents probably helped him with almost everything in that book. If he did it by himself that book probably would have been incoherent as frick. The whole plot is clearly by someone with no life experience
>also writing fantasy is easy as frick any moron can pull some autistic make believe world out of their ass and self insert themselves as the main character
>also writing fantasy is easy as frick any moron can pull some autistic make believe world out of their ass
Is it? Seems pretty difficult to me to create a coherent worldbuilding, laws and mechanics of magic systems and shit.
>laws and mechanics of magic systems and shit
Oh and that's another thing. People praise Eragon's magic system for it's "originality". Too bad it's a word for word ripoff of the magic from A Wizard of Earthsea. Yeah if
hasn't tipped you people off Tortellini is not very creative.
>it's
er, its rather
I disagree you have so many fantasy works to pull ideas from, its basically just picking and choosing which ideas you want to incorporate. I bet If you gave yourself a whole day to sit and daydream you could come up with something equally as compelling, or even more so, than Eragon. Its the equivalent of writing some capeshit. Tolkien and Lewis are special because they actually explore ideas and created a mythos. Everything that came after it just mimicked what they did.
Eragon is nothing more than capeshit on paper and that's how 90% of fantasy is.
>The sad truth
Oh and for his part Christopher Tortellini thinks that he writes on par with the Nobel prize winning author Seamus Heaney and Tolkien "at his best" (because naturally regular Tolkien isn't good enough). See for yourself:
>The branch Roran had added to the fire burst asunder with a muted pop as the coals underneath heated the gnarled length of wood to the point where a small cache of water or sap that had somehow evaded the rays of the sun for untold decades exploded into steam.
What the frick is that greentext lmfao
>that whole sentence
I fricking hate the fantasy genre so much
Fantasy authors only do this shit because Tolkien's work had flowery language and they always think they have to copy what he did or else their own story won't be good.
Tolkien did not write purple prose you subliterate moron. You'd know that if you'd read any Tolkien.
>He only recently wrote another book, in his 30s.
He finished the fourth book of his trilogy in his 30's. He showed no progress from book 1 to 4. He's probably 40 now.
Tolkien's writing is undoubtably flowery you pretentious dick. Go re-read his stuff and see for yourself.
>Go re-read his stuff and see for yourself.
I don't have to, I know it isn't. If it was you'd be posting excerpts here to prove me wrong but you can't and you won't. Please try to find my ANYTHING from Tolkien even beginning to approach this level of shit however:
>The branch Roran had added to the fire burst asunder with a muted pop as the coals underneath heated the gnarled length of wood to the point where a small cache of water or sap that had somehow evaded the rays of the sun for untold decades exploded into steam.
I never argued once that Tolkien's writing is as bad as Paolini's. My original comment was that Tolkien wrote flowery prose, and so every fantasy author does the same thing because they figure it's what Tolkien did so they have to do it too or else their work won't be taken seriously. But here's something from Tolkien's work for comparison.
>And still Meriadoc stood there blinking through his tears, and no one spoke to him, indeed none seemed to heed him... And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched, it writhed and withered and was consumed. So passed the sword of the Barrow-Downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-Kingdom when the Dunedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will.
Not flowery. Stilted actually, but this was being written a 100 years ago by a man who wrote academic treatises on linguistics for his day job.
This. I'm not even a huge fan of Tolkien or fantasy in general but comparing a man with a genius level IQ who survived the fricking battle of the Somme to an autistic teenager is fricking batshit moronic.
I think so many shitty writers have copied his writing style (and basically everything he created) that people automatically dislike him without realizing that he really revolutionized literature and everything that came after him were just copying his ass.
two hours at the council of elrond telling them the exact same gandelf told us in the last few chapters
Tolkien was terrible at prose and I'm tired of pretending he wasn't.
Tolkien's prose is not purple. Tortellini trawled through thesauruses for words to throw into his writing to make it "better". Do you know what "thews" are? Of course you don't, no one does. Tortellini used that word though. Tolkien didn't.
>Who knows what "Thews" are?
Every fantasy reader?
>>The branch Roran had added to the fire burst asunder with a muted pop as the coals underneath heated the gnarled length of wood to the point where a small cache of water or sap that had somehow evaded the rays of the sun for untold decades exploded into steam.
This is why you don't read genre-fiction (or most of fiction for that matter).
>It turns out modern fantasy was just a shitty Tolkien fanfic!
All such cases
Wow another huge waste of money.
I remember watching the movie in middle school and it was one of the first cases when I actually loathed something belonging to a genre I usually tend to like, same for Indiana Jones and the crystal skull
Hey guys tell me if I'm describing Star Wars or Eragon here:
At the start of the story a princess leading a rebellion against an evil empire is being pursued by the evil emperor's right hand man. She's in possesion of an object of great importance which was stolen from the empire. Before she is captured she attempts to secret the item away to a hermit who once belonged to an ancient order of warriors with mystical powers. However the item inadvertently comes into the possession of a boy of foggy origins living with his uncle on a remote farm. The evil emperor's minions track the item to the farm and destroy it, killing the boy's relatives. But the boy escapes with the old hermit who gives him a sword he claims belonged to the boy's father. As they travel together the hermit trains the boy in the ways of the ancient order of warriors. Then the hermit dies protecting the boy, the boy rescues the princess from the start of the story with the help of a dashing rogue, and the boy, rogue, and princess journey together to the rebellion's secret headquarters which has come under attack by the evil empire. At the story's climax the boy saves the day with the timely help of his friends. Afterwards he has a vision of a powerful master of the ancient order of warriors who can finish his training. He seeks the master out and trains with him, growing very powerful. But before his training is finished the boy has premonitions that his friends are in danger. He decides he must go to help them despite his master warning him not to. The boy promises that he will return and leaves. He finds his friends just in time as they are threatened by the evil emperor's right hand man. In the ensuing fight the evil emperor's right hand man reveals that he and the boy are related. The boy is shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed.
Maybe rottentomatoes can help clear this up:
>Critics Consensus: Written by a teenager (and it shows), Eragon presents nothing new to the "hero's journey" story archetype. In movie terms, this movie looks and sounds like Lord of the Rings and plays out like a bad Star Wars rip-off. The movie spins the tale of a peasant boy who is suddenly entrusted with a dragon and must, with the help of a mentor, train, grow strong, and defeat an evil emperor. The way the critics picture it, the makers of Eragon should soon be expecting an annoyed phone call from George Lucas.
Clearly eragon because for star wars that describes episode 4 not episode 1
eh, I remember the first book being inoffensive if really fricking basic fantasy and clearly ripping off Star Wars, but man the books after that just got progressively worse, I think by the third one he was using it to preach about atheism and vegetarianism
>I think by the third one he was using it to preach about atheism and vegetarianism
Kek why are you people seething so much about the elves not being theist? It was just a one line said by the elf dragon rider when Eragon asked him. Is this some kind of christian fragility?
>It was just a one line said by the elf dragon rider when Eragon asked him.
Frick off, there's a whole scene with the Elf princess ridiculing a Dwarf priest about his imaginary gods. Then she tells Eragon that his gods don't exist either which he immediately accepts because the Elves are perfect and right about everything.
Sorry it's been like 15 years, I don't member this scene so maybe you're right.
Still seems like a weird thing to point out from the entire book series, the fact that one of the cultures are agnostic atheists.
Because the entire culture was made up of perfect Mary Sues who are right about everything by mirroring the author's own beliefs.
Weren't they like horrible racists or something? And also cowards?
>Frick off, there's a whole scene with the Elf princess ridiculing a Dwarf priest about his imaginary gods.
Which ends up betraying her, and all elves by extension, as ignorant buttholes in the next book when it's revealed that at least one of the dwarf gods is very real.
>that at least one of the dwarf gods is very real.
What? I don't remember dwarf gods having any actual role in the story
>T.Paolini
lol no one's given an shit about anything you've done since the first book
>I think by the third one he was using it to preach about atheism and vegetarianism
That started with the second book, when he went to live with the Elves. Funny how spirits can exist, like the ones that possessed the bad guy from the first book, but gods can't because... because they can't okay?!
He didn't say they can't though, iirc the guy just said they haven't seen any evidence of a creator god but they are open minded. They have seen evidence of spirits though, so that's how they know those exist. How is this so difficult to comprehend for theists?
>but they are open minded
No, they're not. The princess uses her superior atheist intellect to effortlessly make a fool of the Dwarven priest. Tortellini got a lot of flack from his fans for that so in the third book Eragon considers taking a more agnostic outlook. They also objected to how preachy he was about veganism so I think Eragon eats meat out of necessity in the third book too.
>“We only give credence to that which we can prove exists. Since we cannot find evidence that gods, miracles, and other supernatural things are real, we do not trouble ourselves about them. If that were to change, if Helzvog were to reveal himself to us, then we would accept the new information and revise our position." - Oromis, 8000 AC
Sounds reasonable and open minded to me.
Uh-huh now post the whole bit with the atheist Elf making fun of the religious Dwarf.
And isn't fantasy just so fantastical when everyone is so rational and needs empirical evidence to believe anything.
>I think by the third one he was using it to preach about atheism and vegetarianism
The books' stance on atheism is so fricking inconsistent. Everything starting from Book 2 is just a massive elfwank, and elves are clearly atheists, and openly consider anyone who isn't also an atheist as "too stupid" to understand the world. But then in Book 3 (I think), an actual God of the dwarves straight up appears.
The way it was written I think that was supposed to be a tulpa. Like a physical manifestation of the Dwarves collective belief in their god, manifested through the priest.
I'm not sure. I seem to recall both Eragon and Saphira having to barricade their spirit out of fear against an extremely powerful and alien consciousness when the god appears.
I think it was described as if it was made from thousands of minds or something like that, and that the priest was definitely using some kind of magic before it appeared.
Still waiting for my Everworld adaptation.
lol no way, i read all these shits in elementary/middle school. i just turned 28. who the frick thought this needed a revival?
the scholastic catalog really made sure to pimp the 'He was just 15, how frickin sick!' angle.
I played the ps2 videogame a decade ago, I think. It was fun because I could play it with my 4 yo brother.
Probably will check this one.
>For example, in the first book, Eragon threatens to torture a guard to death, then gets pissy at Murtagh for killing a man who tried to sell them into slavery, then accuses Murtagh of empathy issues, because he killed someone who attacked them maliciously, compared to threatening someone for doing his job. Fast forward to Brisingr when Eragon kills a solider who’s begging for his life—an unarmed solider, I should add—because it would be “dangerous” to let him live, because the solider would go tell someone who could tell the king where Eragon and Arya are. Never mind the fact that they’re in the middle of nowhere, headed back for the Varden, whose location the king already knows, and would surely have reached their destination long before the solider made it back to civilization to tell anyone anything. That, and the fact that it’s established in Eragon that it’s possible to remove information from someone’s mind when Ajihad tries to tell Murtagh why he has to keep him prisoner.
>Granted, that’s mind rape, and I do mean rape, but since in Paolini Land anything done by Eragon is automatically considered morally right, the scene becomes even more jarring. And the mind rape is another problem I have with the series. The good guys say over and over again that it’s wrong, and then they do it all the time.
Is that from anti-shurtugal? God I miss that website.
It's an old post from some random blog I just found, but probably the writer frequented anti-shurtugal
Forgot link
https://ladygeekgirl.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/an-inherent-disaster-inheritance-trilogy-i-mean-cycle/
>12 years ago
>I have actually started reading Brisingr in Japanese because the English version is too much for me. Certainly, not the best book to practice with, and I need a Kanji dictionary to get through it, but at the very least, the Japanese version tends to cut out half the useless descriptions. That’s probably because Japanese has about one-fourth the amount of words English does, so most of what Paolini wrote is completely impossible to say in Japanese, for which I’m grateful.
>Take this, for example, from pg. 3 of Brisingr.
>「オエッ!」ローランが小声でうめいた。「気色悪い。反吐が出るぜ。あの狂信者どもめ、人食い人種だったのか」
>Which roughly means:
>“Hee!” Roran groaned quietly. “Disgusting. I’m going to vomit. Those religious fanatics are cannibalistic?!”
>Compared to the English version:
>“Gar!” said Roran in an undertone. “You failed to mention that those errant flesh-mongers, those gore-bellied, boggle-minded idiot worshipers were cannibals.”
How do you get so rectally ravaged by a fantasy series you not only rant about it on the internet but start literally reading it in another language to lengthen your suffering
That blogger claims they're actually a fan and even write fanfic. The rant is because they're frustrated by how the series could easily be better without amateur mistakes
The Jap translation is just generic Jap phrases they use in every other work, spelling out what the characters feel.
nerdy female bloggers shitting on ya/fantasy books were kino, what happened to them? I still visit an old site in my language just for lolz
Probably grew up or moved on. Same with fanfic writers. This girl in my grad school cohort used to write Tokyo Ghoul fanfic but the manga ending pissed her off so much she ragequit
Luke is a whiny turd that grows into his heroism. People shit on Eragon because he's a sanitized walkthrough of Luke's arc. Not to mention the original Star Wars was a silly pulp space opera movie whereas Eragon the series takes itself way too fricking seriously
>I don’t know why Eragon and the Varden are considered the heroes, because they never do anything heroic. I mean, Eragon goes into battle and takes pleasure in the soldiers he kills. And I don’t know why Galbatorix and the Emipre are evil, because he’s never really shown to be evil. Why is he evil? Well, he taxes people. And that’s about it. Sure, he destroyed the Dragon Riders, but why were they good? Because they just were. The world is based around everything Eragon does being automatically good and everyone who disagrees with him or who works for the Empire being automatically bad.
>The Empire’s stability is only threatened by the Varden, a terrorist group, but Galbatorix is still evil for trying to protect his lands and going to war with them. There are some things here and there to show his evilness, but they come across as more “See! He truly is evil! We must destroy him!” than as anything having to do with character development.
>Paolini has a very black and white world, and that’s honestly why there is little to no character development on either side. It’s also probably why Murtagh’s the most interesting character, because he’s kind of gray. He doesn’t like the king, but he sees that the system works, so he doesn’t like the Varden for threatening it.
is that a review and is it begging for moral ambiguity? weak
No it's pointing out that Eragon is a Gary Stu self-insert who is always in the right even when the reader knows he shouldn't be.
but Luke Skywalker gets a pass because?
Han solo is the gary stu of star wars
so then i guess you're a greedo shot first
I don't think that matters since Han is portrayed as being in the right in any case due to greedo being an evil monster
How many unarmed soldiers begging for mercy did Luke Skywalker kill? How many times did Luke Skywalker chastise Han Solo for killing people?
they kill storm troopers all the time.
And name one time Luke killed a storm trooper who was 1) unarmed and 2) begging for his life.
The point is that stormtroopers are just NPC-tier cannon fodder. You don't even see their faces on account of the helmet
The soldiers in the Inheritance series however are given distinct personalities and faces and Eragon can even read their minds, sensing their terror. So it's half assed that Paolini writes that in, as if wanting his protag to confront his own actions and what it means to take a life, only for him to get over it in a few pages and go right back to mowing them down
ive seen maybe 3 eragon threads in the past decade i've been on Cinemaphile and without fail there are at least 2 or 3 autists in every single one b***hing about how the prose is shitty and how he was actually 19 NOT 15!!! when he wrote the book. why are you guys so ass ravaged about a mediocre series that's almost 20 years old? it has gotten almost 0 mainstream attention since back then but it still creates seethe effortlessly
watch it chrissy
>and without fail there are at least 2 or 3 autists in every single one b***hing about how the prose is shitty and how he was actually 19 NOT 15!!!
don't forget the plagiarism
you're crediting Tolkien for words that stem from ancient norse and latin languages. is it plagiarism to use words from a fricking dictionary? you moron.
Tolkien's words are on the right side. Which ones are from the dictionary you stupid homosexual? Point them out.
*Ardwen - Arwen
*Isenstar - Isengard
*Mithrim - Mithrim or mithril
*Angrenost - Angrenost
*Morgothal - Morgoth
*Elessari - Elessar
*Furnost - Fornost
*Hadarac - Harad
*Melian - Melian
*Vanilor - Valinor
*Eridor - Eriador
*Imiladris - Imladris
*Undin - Fundin/Udun
*Gil'ead - Gil'Galad
*Ceranthor - Caranthir
*Isidar - Isildir
*Oromis - Orome
*Eragon - Aragorn
i know you're too stupid to get this so think harder about this for a while before you reply. the reason they're so similar is that they're both share commonality in the languages they're derived from. latin, norse, ect.
You said they're from the dictionary.
>is it plagiarism to use words from a fricking dictionary
So let me ask you again: where in the dictionary did Tortellini get these words?
you're fricking moronic. just frick off for god sakes. too stupid to understand that they are both derived from older languages.
>they are both derived from older languages
No, Tolkien's are. Tortellini's are just straight up copied from Tolkien's. And I'm still waiting for you to pull these words up out of the dictionary. You said they were in the dictionary, ergo Tortellini couldn't have stolen them.
Did a kid in an Eragon shirt bully you? Tell me where this autism stems from, I'm genuinely intrigued.
The Tortellini anon is a bit autistic but you yourself seem to be putting a lot of effort into defending Paolini's writing. Where does that come from? I hope you're not the author himself
It probably is. Isn't it obvious how personally offended he is?
Christopher, not everyone has to like your writing. You already have your shitty movie and your Disney show which will also suck. Just accept the fact you're a millionaire because of a shitty book you wrote 20 years ago.
Knowing how autistic Chrissy is I could totally imagine him actually posting in this thread.
>3 Eragon threads in the past decade
>decade
>They make an Eragon thread because Disney+ announced they are making a series about it
>OMG WHY IS Cinemaphile OBSESSED WITH ERAGON
Bro......are you mentally moronic?
reading comprehension of someone who couldn't even read the kids books, impressive
b***h I was. responding to the words I read I can't see the fat, greasy little hands and smug smirk smashing away on the keyboard that shat out that garbage comment.
you're dumb as shit. he's riffing on you guys being mad about the kid writing the book.
>kid
19 year olds are not kids.
1. yes they are, 2. he wrote the rough drafts at 15, 16
He wrote nothing at 15 or 16. He fricking admitted in an interview he didn't start writing until he was 18, finishing at 19 at which point he should have been old enough to write better than he did.
Seek. Help.
They are thoughever. Everyone under 30 is a kid.
>wtf why do people correct me when I say something incorrect
Get over it, gay, it’s been years since it happened the first time, you shouldn’t still be seething over it
I hated how overpowered the magic was in the books. Like it was stated in like second book that Eragon can easily kill whole army with couple words by blocking veins in their brains and the only thing that could stop him from doing that was another mage.
Not just stated, the madman actually did it. But he could only do it because Oromis taught him how. Every mage could theoretically do it, but they would have to know exactly how.
I don't hate that idea. It's pretty unique and it makes sense with how the magic system works.
It makes dragon riders OP, but that's the whole point. They're supposed to be OP. And it keeps the dragon from overshadowing the rider.
IT WAS
OUR
TURN
Sorry Sanderson, amateur hour’s over
kek speaking of hack YA works, is this cucked lefty homosexual ever gonna finish his shit or what?
Probably not. He only wrote when he was hanging around as an eternal student, and stopped the second he thought he could drop it.
there was some rumbling about it being at the editor and there being a release date for it. Last Year. Around six months later and still not a fricking thing about it so it seems like it may have been bullshit. Honestly doubt it ever comes out, fricking hack doesn't even have Trump to blame anymore
I love that George Martin convinced so many mid listers that they, too, could sit on their ass doing nothing without repercussions
so speaking of the fat piece of shit get this, back in december 2021 he announced he'd read the prologue and a chapter from Doors of Stone if his charity hit 300,000 bucks. The Charity hit over 1.2 million bucks so they literally exceeded that by almost a million fricking dollars. So he does actually read the prologue on a stream(of which about a page is devoted to describing a tavern in the middle of the night and that's about the only notable thing in the entire fricking prologue), but not the chapter. Rumors come and go about when he'd actually get around to it but it was supposed to be about February at the latest. 11 months later and it still hasn't happened and he hasn't even said anything about it as explanation, update, or apology.
So the obvious takeaway from this, I mean besides that he's a lying sack of shit who exploits his fans for money, is that chapter 1 probably isn't even fricking done yet
Pathetic.
I've written four new books since then btw.
>stones unhallowed was renamed to oathbringer because the publishers were worried there’d be conflict with doors of stone
>oathbringer came out in 2017
its easier to count the number of series Sanderson has started and finished rather than individual books since Rothfuss wrote his last real book
>and he hasn't even said anything about it as explanation, update, or apology
He said he would write a blog post on the topic. That was about two months ago lmao.
Nope. That frick said can't even bring himself to make a blogpost to explain why he still hasn't released the sample chapter he promised like a year ago.
I unironically can not believe people read this guys shit and didn't feel second hand embarrassment.
Book 3 never.
after Wheel of Time and Lord of the Rings why the frick would anyone even want their fricking work adapted at this point?
I did think the movie was pretty poor. I've always wanted a better adaptation.
I can see why the books are not top-tier material, but I liked them when I first read them.
/InheritanceChads/ what's our book ranking look like? For me it's 2 > 1 > 3 = 4. Comfy adventures to start off with but definitely got into repetitive territory towards the end and the final boss fight was somewhat weak. Still should be a good first season though!
I think 2 > 1 > 3, haven't read 4.
It's been over a decade though.
1>2>>>>>3>>>>>>the void>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4
For me it's 2 > 1 > 4 > 3.
I didn't like the 4th book very much but I didn't have to force myself through it like I did with Brisingr.
Eldest is easily the best because the whole sequence with Roran going on a boat trip is the best thing that happens in the entire series.
Kinda hyped. The first book is kino but it sucks that the new adaption won't have Irons as Brom or Doyle's ost
I thought Brom was miscast as frick. I always imagined him as an obi wan/gandalf type very old bearded (and bald for some reason, even though I don't think there was ever a mention of it in the actual text) man in a plain robe. In the movie he looks like middle aged chad action man.
Read this book at 12 years old and immediately despised it. How the frick an adult could even begin to care about Eragon is beyond me. It’s even leagues worse than Potter became when it shifted to teenage angst with Goblet. Just pure YA, brain-rotting trash. I’m not the smartest dude in the world but I’m glad my parents kept real literature around the house so I was prepared to identify this trash.
frick off, give me what I really want!
you'd think a sarcastic butthole narrator/main character and a black girl love interest would be exactly what netflix would want, and yet
>black
wow, why the frick did I think she was black?
>thank you, djinni, you are truly my greatest ally
Funny thing, my librarian allowed kids to rent Harry Potter only if they had a written permission from parents, because of the demonic magic outrage, but I could without problem rent this book that's all about kid learning magic that's all about summoning demons.
Overall the book seemed like the author looked at the Harry Potter controversy and said "you call that demonic? I will show you demonic!"
The dragon better be sexy.
I miss when we would get two pieces of media that were the same genre and that is it. Deep impact and Armageddon came out the same year, for instance.
But that was it. I feel like I've been watching lotr for 20 years. Everything is lotr.
It's got to be good to be in hollywood, because you only have to know how to make the same clothing and armor. And frick sets, just green screen that shit. People will complain, but they'll still watch.
I remember reading this as a kid and thinking Eragon was such a gay for continuing to pine for Arya when he had a perfectly fine human chick running the magician guild that wanted his dick
I don't remember her at all except she made a magic sweat shop for lace to fund the rebellion and there was something about a little girl who was magically compelled to protect other people because Eragon fricked up his grammar while giving a blessing
That'd be Trianna. I remember it being unclear whether she truly wanted his dick or just wanted to manipulate him, but we never do get to find out because Saphira, being the possessive b***h that she is, chases her off and pretty much forces Eragon to only ever have a professional relationship with her.
He could easily have gotten with Nasuada though
He was too obsessed with Arya to seriously consider it.
Besides, if Nasuada refused to marry Orrin because it would force her to share power with someone else (which is unironically the main reason she dismisses the idea, talk about being power-hungry), do you seriously imagine her marrying an all-powerful dragonrider?
Considering she ends up falling in love with another dragonrider who murdered her closest ally and thousands of her own soldiers, I'd say anything is possible
bwahahahaha! cant wait to see how the frick this up! will eragon be a turbo homie? homiegon? erahomie? eragonniga? BWAHAHAHAHA! will he be a hwyte craka race mixin with niggress arya? PHUCKINS MY DUDE, INFINTE POSSIBILITES FOR MASSIVE ASSHURT!
WILL THERE BE Black person DRAGONS?!?!?!?
read the book and try and pretend Eragon isn't black
Everyone shots on this but sword of Shannara gets a pass somehow.
It literally had the entire fellowship of the ring, with carbon copies of each character AND the ringwraiths
I mean he wrote his first books at like what 14?15?
Because no one read that shit. I got for Christmas when I was like 13 and literally never opened it once. I'm 30 now.
man FRICK the movie
Fantasy plagiarism knows no bounds
you might think shannara is bad, what if I tell there's a book written by a woman that basically copies book 2-3 of shannara 1 to 1 only making the mcs little girls instead
we I say 1 on 1 I mean it, every single main charcter and event in shannara 2-3 has a direct equivalent in that book
too bad I read it like 20 years ago so I can't find it but even as a kid I couldn't belive how shameless that shit was
meant for
I wonder how many even shittier fantasy novels were written or attempted thanks to this book
I Remember in middle school everyone wanted to write their own fantasy, I wrote a couple chapters of some generic garbage about magic elemental swords myself
Man I'm guilty of this shit too. I found my manuscript that I was writing and I cringed so fricking hard at myself.
you can't just say shit like that and not post the manuscript
That was a while ago by the time I found it the thread would 404. But it was basically a sci-fi/fantasy and it was around the time I was getting into Cinemaphile around 2008 so it was kind of based off Anonymous and I literally used the "we do not forgive we do not forget" in it....holy frick I want to kill myself just typing this out. I was such a fricking autist back then.
I wrote some WWII story while I was bored on the train to uni when I was 17. Was meant to be a three-part trilogy and everything.
Dad was the only person to read it. I submitted it for publication a handful of times but eventually gave up.
I wrote tonnes of ideas for stories down.
It’s pretty difficulty to tell, since that era was the peak of YA fantasy, that only really declined with the twilight movies, and there was a boatload of popular books to rip off.
>Cinemaphile seethes about another fit, successful author
never change
>peaked at 18 thanks to nepotism and blind luck
>hasn't achived anything since
He might have more money than me thanks to royalties and shit but I can honestly say I'm more successful despite being 10 years younger
he's more like a lucky nonmoronic version of chirschan than an actual author
>I can honestly say I'm more successful despite being 10 years younger
And what do you do?
I write smut mlp fanfics
I got a degree in statistics and work for the biggest insurance company in my country in a relitively high up position(i guess an american would call it middle managment)
I have friends with stem degrees that make 3 times less than I do and had I not had to be forced to drop out of actuarial science to get a job I would be making much much more
I'll probably get my master eventualy once I'm well off enough to quit working for a couple years
what does '3 times less' mean?
your salary - your salary x3? wut
he's a statistician not a mathematician.. LOL
maybe he hires people to do all the complicated sums for him, that's just how high up he is.
Are you trolling or do you really not get it lol?
I make 3 times more than them, I guess it was an awkward way to phrase it but I'm els you'd have to be moronic not to get what i'm saying though
whatever smartypants, even if you were actually a manager mr. chrissy tortellini is still more successful than you
go whine on Cinemaphile or something
>Kid with extremely rich parents is more successful than you
Ain't that the truth
yeah i assumed that to be honest with you lad, just thought it was clunky phrasing.
i am moronic though that's why i'm not as successful as you. but you know what? at least i'm happy.
>at least i'm happy.
With how fricked everything is right now, that's better than most people.
fair enough my enitre post reads like an indian on adderal t b h that's what happens when my only english practice is lurking this shithole
I a miserable bastard myself so I envy you
like clockwork lol
Frick of poojets, this delusion will not help you reddemm code banchod
He apparently wrote a sci-fi book in 2020 and according to wiki it was successful and even got some award.
Reminder that he did literally nothing wrong
>Had all the dragon bussy he could have ever wanted at his command
>Still died because he didn't mind-rape that one kid hard enough
>The war is finally over
>The author used that stupid "the power of friendship" asspull to kill the bad guy
>everything goes back to normal
>suddenly there's a scene of Saphira getting dicked down
>Eragon's mind link makes him feel everything that happens
Kind of weird, but based at the same time
there's a scene of Saphira getting dicked down
's mind link makes him feel everything that happens
I will now read Inheritance.
Don't bother.
1/3rd of the book is literally Eragon training with some autistic elf guy and his equally autistic gold dragon.
Looking back, it's got more holes than swiss cheese. Will be an honest to god trainwreck if this tv series ever gets made.
There’s some downright peculiar parts in the books.
Like Eragon being a Luke stand in while his mother is a Mara Jade stand in
>Eragon stood with Arya as they watched the glittering dragons ascend into the heavens, spiraling around each other with flames streaming from their mouths. It was an awe-inspiring sight: savage and beautiful, and frightening. Eragon realized he was watching an ancient and elemental ritual, one that was part of the very fabric of nature itself and without which the land would wither and die.
>His connection with Saphira grew tenuous as the distance between them increased, but he could still sense the heat of her passion, which darkened the edges of her vision and blotted out all thoughts save those driven by the instinctual need that all creatures, even the elves, are subject to.
>The dragons shrank until at last they were no more than a pair of sparkling stars orbiting each other in the immensity of the sky. As far away as they were, Eragon still received a few flashes of thoughts and feelings from Saphira, and though he had experienced many such moments with the Eldunarí when they had shared their memories with him, his cheeks grew hot, as did the tips of his ears, and he found himself unable to look directly at Arya.
>She too seemed affected by the dragons’ emotions, although differently than he; she stared after Saphira and Fírnen with a faint smile, and her eyes shone brighter than usual, as if the sight of the two dragons filled her with pride and happiness.
>Eragon let out a sigh, and then squatted and began to draw in the dirt with a stalk of grass.
>“Well, that didn’t take long,” he said.
>“No,” said Arya.
>They remained that way for a number of minutes: she standing, he squatting, and all silence around them, save for the sound of the lonely wind.
Eragon is canonically autistic
>When your 3 year old dragon, believed to be the last of her kind, gets laid before you
Fricking state of Eragon, what a fricking loser
He tried to get some elf pussy but he got turned down because he's "literally a child in elf years".
I find it hard to believe that elves aren't into /ss/. Just blows my fricking mind, honestly.
>When your 3 year old dragon, believed to be the last of her kind, gets laid before you
We don't know that for sure. During the big elvish ceremony in book (or was it book ?) where Eragon gets turned into a half-elf or something, he remembers dancing with a young female elf and remembers her scent and "the taste of her tongue" or whatever, so he might have gotten lucky there.
I remember that. The whole thing is written as a fever dream where anything can happen. It's also one of the very few moments in the books where Saphira leaves him the frick alone, and considering she constantly wiener-blocks him, he might have gotten laid.
This make me so mad. Eragon, you dumb frick, how can you not make a move in such situation? No wonder Arya left him.
Holy frick Paolini is autistic as shit even his own self insert couldn't get pussy.
Also I forget these characters, are Arya and Saphira dragons? Is he jealous he wasn't going to get dragon pussy or something?
Arya is the elf chick, Saphira is Eragons dragon. Fírnen is Aryas dragon.
Their dragons fricked but they didn't.
hahahaha holy frick that is so pathetic. He's such a bitter virgin that he wouldn't even let his main character get laid before he does. His character is hanging out with a princess, riding dragons, and killing people but he's still a beta who can't get coochie.
That is the saddest self insert I have ever seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he is still a virgin despite being 39 and rich as frick.
>I wouldn't be surprised if he is still a virgin despite being 39 and rich as frick.
He has a wife and two kids
I bet he molests his children
Saphira is Eragon's dragon. Arya is the elf princess that Eragon simps for throughout the whole story
>Eragon has been lusting after this hot elf chick for 4 books
>Eragon's dragon Saphira immediately hooks up with Arya's dragon Firnen five seconds after they meet for the first time
>Eragon and Arya have a mind link to all of this
>Eragon has had a long time learning to control the mind link and Arya hasn't
>Eragon can't look her in the face and starts drawing patterns in the dirt
it's almost like that's just how he wanted to write the book. you fricking moron.
when is Zak Sabbath, the saviour of D&D, getting a TV series?
for me, it's physically fit (but still geeky-looking) talented young programmers.
Eragon isn’t exactly good but Paolini is 100% a better writer than say Sanderson.
>Arya: 103 years old
>Eragon: 18 years old
I'll never forgive the movie for making the Ra'zac into generic mooks made of maggots summoned by Durza.
They were legit creepy and cool in the books.
Please tell me malkovich returns
>read fork/witch/worm short stories
>Eragon is losing unhealthy amounts of weight from all his work, hitting the bottle immediately after meetings and getting more and more tired of the elves' shit
it happens to everyone
Pretty hyped, 12 year old me thought it was kino and I enjoyed how it make people seeth
>noooooo it’s just star wars even though star wars itself is a story as old as time, only told with space ships and laser swords
the movie was crap even compared to the book
it's pretty fun TBqH
hatches an egg, becomes mentored into dragon riding, learns magic spells, fights an evil wizard in the sky, and wears a promise ring for elf princess
Read the first book when I was 9 and then the next two immediately after. When I was 14 the 4th book came out and I read it but me and my friends thought it was cringe even then.
>Kills the big bad with the power of feelings and friendship
I enjoyed Roran’s boat journey and the sword building side quest in book 3. Pretty depressing that this hack is probably loaded from royalties and doesn’t even face any criticism since most of his “fans” read this shit as schoolchildren and forgot about it or dismiss it as innocent slop
>Kills the big bad with the power of feelings and friendship
just like in my jrpgs
it is innocent slop
>everyone is black now
why even bother?
>everyone is black now
finally some diverse representation
You dumbasses.
Arya didn't frick Eragon because she's an elf supremacist (which is a good thing).
He never stood a chance.
He literally became an elf. He's like Michael Jackson but actually transracial.
>He literally became an elf
No he didn't. He became a weird transracial hybrid.
Even more disgusting then either race.
He will never be an elf. Just like you will never be a woman.
if i identify as a woman, i'm a woman.
in your headcanon maybe
no, society isn't on your side.
and statistics aren't on yours