Why Amon didn't just invent guns? It would be a much simpler solution than taking bending from literally every fricking bender in the world
Legend of Korra
Why Amon didn't just invent guns? It would be a much simpler solution than taking bending from literally every fricking bender in the world
Guns wouldn't do shit to someone that can make earthquakes or tornado
I dunno. I think it takes a second or two to fire a round vs a few seconds to do an earthquake or tornado.
>I think it takes a second or two to fire a round vs a few seconds to do an earthquake or tornado.
For a modern automatic weapon. A matchlock, muzzle-loading musket, on the other hand, takes a few seconds to light off. Early man-portable cannon even longer. It took a couple centuries of technical innovation for hand-held gunpowder weapons to supersede the good old bow-and-arrow.
To be fair by TLOK they have the technology to skip a lot of the early gunpowder weapons.
Especially since there's actually a form of gunpowder weapon already in the show, Azula's airships have cannons.
>For a modern automatic weapon. A matchlock, muzzle-loading musket, on the other hand, takes a few seconds to light off.
Are you talking load or lock-time?
Because even with a flint-lock or a match lock lock time isn't really a few seconds. There's more lock time than modern percussion cap fired weapons but no, that's not quite accurate. Canon were typically touched off the same way a match lock was. The cartoon convention of having a fuse isn't really all that true to life; they did have a burning wick or match that was lit that was touched to the fire-hole, but the lock time from when the fire hole was touched to ignition wasn't 'a few seconds.'
I'd say the longest lock time of early muzzle loaders was probably a flint lock, but I'd measure that in hundreds of milliseconds, not several seconds.
>Why didn't Amon just fling tiny bits of metal at metalbenders?
Would probably wreck firebenders though. Waterbenders would probably be able to wall it off.
Bullets travel at a speed too great for a martial artist to react to
All of these imply use on the unsuspected. It means literally nothing. If you try and draw a weapon against a bender and they're expecting you to put up resistance, they beat the shit out of you. They see you start to pull out a gun, you get a rock to the stomach or your head burned off.
Remember, Avatar land is partial fantasy land. Fighters have reaction times that allow for that shit.
>benders can anti guns because "LOLFANTASY" script powers
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HK-47, fool!
>fantasy script powers don't count even though it's literally what allows for bending to exist
People in the setting are able to react to lightning being shot at them, are able to survive being struck by large boulders, are able to survive being entirely encapsulated by ice without permanent injury. It's a cartoon.
If you apply firearms to the setting, then yes they would be able to react to an untrained civilian drawing a firearm. If you want to say the person is trained, it becomes a fair fight in the same way a trained non-bender can fight a trained bender.
Isn't the main reason for that that ballistics can't be deflected via lightsaber? It doesn't really have anything to do with the force.
>People in the setting are able to react to lightning being shot at them
A bare handful are. If that was something the average bender could do, then why the hell would the yuyan archers be feared?
goes both ways: gun users can unrealistic reflexes and aim
Yes, in which case you can look to what I said
here
At that point, it's essentially just a non-bender combatant versus a bender combatant. It'd just be a regular fight like any other in the show, neither side would one up the other.
This is moronic. A metal bender stopping a bullet would be like you dodging one. They don't have the fricking reflexes to stop something that fast, especially something that fricking small.
homie they don't gotta stop a bullet, they just have to make the bullet not hit them. That's a whole fricking list of options.
>Metal Bend the gun away from the person
>Hold back the striking pin
>Move the barrel
Distance and precision. Most bending has a seemingly limited distance, so being able to shoot arrows at such a distance that people don't see you coming is incredibly useful because reaction time doesn't matter if you can't see what you're reacting too. That's why I said it'd be good on the unsuspecting or from a great distance.
>lists a number of options a metal bender has to stop someone with a gun
>literally destroys all of those arguments by explaining the advantages of bow and arrows against benders.
Anon did you not see the incoherence in your logic before posting? If benders have a limitted range by which to use their bending abilities then a long range weapon like a firearm is going to be far more advantageous against a bender than a fricking bow and arrow.
homie, are you for real.
>it'd be good on the unsuspecting or from a great distance.
>All of these imply use on the unsuspected
I've been saying that using them in the same way you'd use a bow to kill someone is effective. But much like a bow, shooting someone reliably at a distance requires training. Because of this, it doesn't work as a good equalizer for non-benders.
If waterbenders can wall them off then firebenders can melt them
Firebenders could control the sparks and heat that launch the bullets
Could YOU invent guns, anon?
This is the problem when it comes to fantasy. Firearms absolutely shit all over magic, so writers desperately try to avoid them lest they break the setting to pieces.
>Firearms absolutely shit all over magic,
Name a weapon that would help against fricking Force
>A sniper rifle
>Muster gas
>Land mine
>Force
You mean as in Star Wars? There's an entire character who exists solely to show how the Jedi/Sith are absolute garbage against anyone who puts even an ounce of thought into it.
>There's an entire character who exists solely to show how the Jedi/Sith are absolute garbage against anyone who puts even an ounce of thought into it.
Who? Grievous? He was killed as soon as he fought the first capable Jedi
>Name a weapon that would help against fricking Force
ballistics in setting are literally used as special ops weaponry for killing jedis
whatever weapon the writer wants to work against the force. AFAIK the force seems to be bullshit plot powers that don't make much sense, follow many rules, and constantly invent new powers.
Laser guns seemed to wreck Jedi shit during Order 66.
I've got a related question to this. If guns were never invented in Korra's era then why did conventional arms like swords, spears and crossbows go outta style?
It's a cartoon for kids, don't think too much about it bro
But i thought that Korra supposed to be adult product......
If it was we'd have more scenes of Korra going naked
I mean. Wouldn't inventing guns work against him beyond immediate short term? He's a rebel with limited resources, he can produce relatively few of them. But if a state apparatus gets its hands on his technology it would get far more use out of it then him, because it can fund it considerably more efficiently.
Yeah this, the second some engineer opened their mouth weapon factories would open up and every country would have cannons, mortars and musketeers without need for firebending tricks like the Fire Nation did before, and they'd field a hundred soldiers and build a hundred machines for every one Amon could field.
Amon does have the under the table resources of one of the largest manufacturers on the planet, and once he pulls off his coup/revolution Sato can aid more openly. So he can produce a hell of a lot. Amon had a lot of resources in canon for this reason.
>But if a state apparatus gets its hands on his technology
Well then don't give them that opportunity duh
It just takes one raid on a factory, one shipment of guns confiscated, and one engineer opening their mouth, and the cat's out of the bag.
Suddenly it's not just Amon vs. The Republic, it's Amon vs. The Elemental Countries in search of a massively valuable new tech.
Amon wanted to take away bending period he resented it in itself not just as a pragmatic threat against nonbenders, also because it's a kids show based around fun kung fu fights chiblocking and taser fists atleast give opportunity to show that off while evening the playing field guns less so.
Guns are lame
Because he didn't think of them
Hindsight is 20/20 buster, if I threw you into the past you'd likely never invent firearms, or cars or vacuums or toasters or toilets.
We take this stuff for granted but they really are magnificent and incredible machines.
>non-bender cope
Truly embarassing
Well gee anon I dunno, why haven't you invented flying cars yet? Would make everything so much better so hop to it.