well yes you moron
gen-y is probably the biggest sucker for 80s nostalgia even though they weren't teenagers in that era
that's why gen-z jumps on 90s and early 00s nostalgia trips because to them that's what was "cool back then"
This movie doesn't qualify as nostalgia bait. Rather than dangling shiny 'member berries they use flashbacks and exposition to provide everything required to make the movie a standalone story, informed by the events previous movie but not reliant on it.
Not at all. Maverick is much more tense with how it spends the whole movie building toward the huge burst of action at the end. First one is a goofy 80s cheese fest, much more focused on romance and homoeroticism than plane action.
>Maverick is much more tense with how it spends the whole movie building toward the huge burst of action at the end.
well the old one was intense until the burst of action at the end too. Maverick is just able to do it better because of better SFX technology. Also they literally follow the same flow from the old movie....
>bar scene >hangar meet the crew scene >beach sportsball scene >repeated scenes on bike to house of love interest >office scene being reprimanded >intense practice scene >big action finale
>nooo they have to meet each individual character heckin' organically
2 years ago
Anonymous
at least do the introduction of the instructor/expert meeting the team differently.
>crew at bar >unbeknownst to them, get into it with the expert/instructor >they meet the next day in the hangar...and surprise... >HEY ISN'T IT THAT OLD GUY/HOT GIRL FROM THE BAR! OOPSIE!
they literally did the same shit you fanboy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except Cruise was a fly on the wall for the bar scene, and once they got started in the Hangar nobody recognized him from before
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hangman and Payback literally threw him onto the beach but they don't make a big deal about it like autismo here
at least do the introduction of the instructor/expert meeting the team differently.
>crew at bar >unbeknownst to them, get into it with the expert/instructor >they meet the next day in the hangar...and surprise... >HEY ISN'T IT THAT OLD GUY/HOT GIRL FROM THE BAR! OOPSIE!
they literally did the same shit you fanboy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They don't seem to recognize him later when he shows up as their instructor
2 years ago
Anonymous
they make eye contact and then give each other shocked looks, it's a throwaway scene but it acknowledges continuity
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but they don't make a big deal about it like autismo here
The "Oopsie" is played out in the mind of the viewer more than on the screen, just like in the original, but this time it had less impact because anyone that's seen the original knew what was coming from that setup.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's like thirty frames dude
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Except Cruise was a fly on the wall for the bar scene
Everyone knew he was there, what are you talking about, at the bar the wienery guy kept calling him "old man" and they all threw him out on his ass. They taunted him a number of times to pay the tab for the entire bar.
It's the same kind of setup in the old movie where Cruise was trying to hit on the love interest in the bar not knowing she turned out to be their plane expert or whatever.
Same basic framework except this one isn’t total dogshit like the first, one of the most baffling blockbusters ever
2 years ago
Anonymous
this one is much better than the first one, mostly because they could do so much more with special effects to make the flying more intense.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The original has great style but a terrible script. There's zero tension and Tom's charisma carried the whole movie. This one is solid in every department.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But the new one isn't gay at all
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, the entire love story really brought down the entire movie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i liked the movie but i laughed at the middle aged love scene in the theatre
2 years ago
Anonymous
>middle age
The "young" pilots are middle aged tom could eat off the senior menu at dennys
>SFX technology
Dude, it has nothing to do with SFX. Go look at the size of the venice cameras they used for maverick compared to the camera used in the original. Original had better dialogue and supporting cast.
I'm the right age be nostalgic for the old Top Gun but I saw it relatively late and thought it was kinda mediocre. This one, on the other hand, seeing real life jet fighters go woosh on a big screen is just too damn cool. You'd have to be some kind of a homosexual to not like this movie.
>pinkos absolutely litter media and modern cinema with leftist propaganda for years >inhumane social engineering to fit their twisted agendas at all costs, shielding demented child abuse behind a false curtain of progress >enter tom cruise >a movie about planes and the navy has to get military signoff in order to use said planes, like every single war movie in history before it >leftoids are in in an implosion of panic, they hurry to decry this passion project as " propaganda " or " manufactured" hype
the irony is devastatingly palpable. i now love tom cruise and will watch this schlockfest
Except I still think it's propaganda, especially for the agenda, and I agree with you about the leftism. This and all the gay push in movies, all the same side.
the plebs are thirsty of propaganda
the pentagon infiltrates movie studios and shits out all these 'MURRICA STRONK material, and the paesants slurp the cum right out their dicks
>makes sequel that doesn't shit on the original >script is written in good faith, not trying to make topical political undertones or "subvert the audience" >autistic obsession with practical effects and committed to having big-screen release rather than streaming
Mapother may be a Xenu-worshipper but he truly loves making movies
>The enemy nation in the movie is blatantly Iran, though the choice to scrub the name was something.
I read they chose to scrub the name in order to have the movie NOT become outdated like with Top Gun 1 and the Soviet Union. But Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore and a new generation of kids have no idea what the cold war was like.
>No one cares about Iran
Imagine being this blatantely moronic because Fox didn't tell you to care about it. It's been an ongoing issue since the 2000s for America too since people still flee from the war and weapons do still get sold.
>"Maverick, surprised to see you here after you Stormed the Capitol on January 6, glad to see you again!" >"Well, even if Dementia Joe is the commander in chief, at least I get to fly some cool planes"
totally broke my immersion
There were no politics in this movie.
The enemy nation is unnamed, there is no mention of current events beyond a fictional nuclear plant. There is no discussion of any isms or ists. The female characters don't go full Sam Carter and the minorities don't start spouting off about saint floyd. The legacy characters are allowed to shine while faced with realistic consequences for their personality and actions and the themes are focused on universal struggles such as a parent letting their child take their first steps out of the nest and repairing old, broken relationships.
To leftists any semi-positive portrayal of military is a policitcal statement.
If there was a subplot about how corrupt the navy is and how all the white men are evil racists that just joined the military to kill brown people it would be hailed by the same people crying about propaganda.
lmao thats why the us navy helped fund their movie and gave them a discount on airtime of their jets; it was completely done out of goodwill, and they totally did not have recruiters stationed outside theatres after this movie.
Anon I hate to tell you this...but thats how every movie with a military presence usually goes. Thats how its been since Hollywood started asking the US military for advisors to help them.
Not only that, did you know that federal agencies have a say in every movie they are so much as mentioned in? To the point they force script changes to make themselves look better?
There is a subplot about the flaw of the navy. The navy top brass was about to send the team to an extremely dangerous mission with half ass prep and milelquetoast plan. Both Iceman and Maverick had to step in to make the mission successful and the pilots returning home safely.
I was fully expecting a scene where it's revealed john hamm was working for the enemy all along and was trying to sabotage the mission on purpose.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I never had that feeling
John Hamm antagonistic action to Maverick never felt malignant and dubious. He took action fitting to the dogmatic bureaucracy. He took action to try to squeeze the pieces he has into the hole the best he can and get the mission going as he didn't have the option to simply call it off. Maverick went further and forcefully mold the pieces beyond their current limit to ensure they fit into the holes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's when he lowers the time requirements meaning all the pilots would come under fire from the su57s.
That goes beyond pure incompetence and into oh shit homie what are you doing territory.
2 years ago
Anonymous
To be fair before that they were killing themselves early by flying into walls or showing themselves on radar, which would have resulted in being swarmed before they even reached the target. To him they had a better chance of surviving if they went slow because it seemed like nobody could fly through those canyons fast enough without crashing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's easier to say the mission failed due to the pilots getting overwhelmed by enemy's fifth gen aircraft rather than being pushed to fly too fast and crashed into mountain. It was a passive way to plan the mission, basically hoping that the enemy wouldn't respond in time or fail to take down the jet. It basically bet on the enemy underperforming and fricking up rather than the top gun pilot somehow overperform. There was a chance that they manage to bomb the bunker before being taken out by the enemy jets. Therefore, simply making it to the target without crashing and destroying the target is the preferrable result than crashing into the mountain. They thought that the valley run combined with the dive bombing wasn't feasible until Maverick did it himself.
But there was still time to train.
And once maverick shows them it can be done the others can do it, too.
And cyclone was deadset against even letting maverick show them it could be done.
Both plans have awful survival chances but the fast way at least has slightly better odds of destroying the target.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but the fast way at least has slightly better odds of destroying the target.
What? It was the opposite. Going fast made them go above the radar threshold several times, or crashing, meaning the enemy was alerted to their presence or they lost the bomb needed to pull off the mission.
Going slow = almost 100% chance that the bombing goes off smoothly because there's no interception or lost bombs so it's a "mission success", but since the enemy has had time to get their jets into the air after the airfield got bombed they'll get fricked up trying to fly back to the ship.
Going fast = big chance that they'll smack into a canyon wall or breach radar, tipping the enemy off early about which direction they're coming from, if they don't get taken out by the rockets, but if they pull it off they'll have time to go home without having to dogfight fifth gen fighters all the way to the ship.
Jon Hamm thought it better to take the path that ensures the target was destroyed since he was sending them to their death/capture either way. But he changed his mind when Maverick showed them all that it could be done and so there was a way for them all to return home.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Going fast made them go above the radar threshold several times, or crashing,
Well when they started training.
Obviously by end of training at least the people tom picks are able to do it without going above the ceiling limitations etc. >Going slow = almost 100% chance that the bombing goes off smoothly because there's no interception
But there would be interception by the su57s.
That's why everyone except john hamm wants to do it the other way.
Not to mention if they were really slow theyd probably even come under SAM fire just trying to fly up the mountain side to get to the target not "just" after when the reach coffin ally or whatever they called it.
Like I understand that they wanted to have some conflict about how to do the mission and why I just dont think it comes across as believable especially considering it's a movie about doing an "impossible" mission.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But there would be interception by the su57s.
Not BEFORE the bombing. The time limit was to give them enough time to fly back to base before the su57s could get in the air to shoot them down. The bombing itself would still have happened before those could get airborne and find the planes because up until the bombing happens nobody would know if there even are any planes coming or from what direction, just like the unplanned bogeys didn't immediately swoop down to bomb them in the canyon.
Everyone was against Hamm's plan because it meant that the squad would 100% have to dogfight their way back home after showing themselves by bombing the facility. The bombing mission would be successful but they'd all be shot down. As opposed to going fast where the bombing mission looked like it'd fail AND people would die.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh right that makes sense. Su57s wouldnt be able to see them in the canyon anyway.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's easier to say the mission failed due to the pilots getting overwhelmed by enemy's fifth gen aircraft rather than being pushed to fly too fast and crashed into mountain. It was a passive way to plan the mission, basically hoping that the enemy wouldn't respond in time or fail to take down the jet. It basically bet on the enemy underperforming and fricking up rather than the top gun pilot somehow overperform. There was a chance that they manage to bomb the bunker before being taken out by the enemy jets. Therefore, simply making it to the target without crashing and destroying the target is the preferrable result than crashing into the mountain. They thought that the valley run combined with the dive bombing wasn't feasible until Maverick did it himself.
Even normal day to day practicalities become avatars of inbuilt structures of power created by le evil white men
For the leftist, the entire world and society is a construct based on political power dynamics. What you and i would consider "Normality" to the leftist is just the exertion of our norms onto the structure of reality through our inbuilt historical power
This is why they attack everything all the time. If something isn't actively deconstructing and destroying what has come before, it is considered complicit with the power structures of the past.
Even things like logic and rationality have been argued by the left to be inherently political European social constructs based on patriarchal dynamics.
The leftist is nothing if not all consumed by its ideology.
lmao imagine if china or russia made a similar movie with help from their militaries, where they're the "good guys" that bomb another country, you'd be screaming propaganda for days. But since it's your country you dont see it. It's plain O' propaganda, that's why the US navy sunk in so much money and effort in helping, and that's why they have recruiters outside theatres. It's still a good frickin movie, but lets not deny the whole thing isnt just "Murica!"
....China has done this moron.
They're doing it right now.
One of the most popular chinese movie franchises outright names the US as the bad guy, and has chinese naval seals fighting them.
The American military characters were running slaves IIRC
>imagine if china or russia made a similar movie with help from their militaries, where they're the "good guys" that bomb another country
We dont have to imagine because they do that all the time.
But it's ok when they do it.
Just like it's ok when china genocides the uyghurs.
But man that george floyd thing grrrrrrr fricking racist chuds.
In the movie they violate a treaty that they signed. What, should we just write them a mean letter, homosexual. God I fricking hate that a movie as fun as this is ruined by you nutters
>script is written in good faith
It's sick that you have to explicitly state this in 2022. Because so many flicks are written in a dishonest, snarky, cynical and ironic manner.
That last movie he did where he repeated the same day over and over again did well and it's a surprise it took him this long to make another movie
we're crusie starved and now we can't get enough
WE MUST CRUISE FEAST
It was a breath of fresh air compared to corporate woke propaganda. Yes, it's military-industrial complex propaganda instead but a change is as good as a rest. Tom is based too.
I am 100% convinced this movie is as good as it is because of Tom Cruise. I bet you money he ghost edited the entire script. There are elements of it where you can almost feel the subversive elements wanting to eek through. Like the initial bar scene, where Tom has no money, and is thrown out. It's entirely saved by the fact that Tom is ridiculously charismatic, and smiles all throughout it.
And also there's a very specific scene added later that shows, no. He has money. He's not a loser.
All of the characters behaved in a refreshingly different way to the usual woke clichés. When Hangman wasn't picked for the mission, I thought he'd screech and seethe for 20 minutes about how diversity was killing the navy. But he just sucked it up and saved the day anyway.
The only BS I note is that Trace and BOB would have been grounded after their crash, modern ejection seats launch out so hard and fast that they cause extreme spinal damage. You'll never be safe pulling Gs again, so they just don't let you fly anymore.
That's incorrect. Whilst ejections can cause injuries like that, it's not a guarantee. Plenty of pilots have ejected and continued on with their careers.
EVERYTHING WENT RIGHT!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>What went right?
Studio interns be like >What are some of the key takeaways for this film's success that I can present to my boss in the Q3 social media presentation?
>>make a movie that doesn't talk down to its audience
gobble it up >>Hmm Let's Continue To Do This
They'll spin it as "problematic indoctrination by US Military" or something
"Conservative brainwashing funded by scientologists"
Realistically, she would have been grounded and discharged for crashing after failing to resolve a simple engine fire. The f-18 was designed with the engines close together specifically so that it wouldn't lose control when one engine failed. Her role on the mission would have taken by Hangman.
Buuuut it's not like Maverick was one to judge when he has crashed 2 planes because of pilot error.
Because most modern action blockbusters try to use grandiose spectacle to sell the thrill of action when it is a cheap imitation for developing real investment in character and story. Despite being fairly grounded in comparison, this movie is way more thrilling than any superhero movie where some galactic evil guy no. 245 threatens to destroy the world for the 245th time with movie actors that don't know how to fight which is covered by excessive cgi explosions.
Same reason why early Fast and Furious movies where they were grounded felt more enjoyable than the new movies where they only care about spectacle and are saving the world and going to space or whatever.
Was surprised at how sincere this movie felt even though it's a highly anticipated franchise sequel. There's not much cynicism at all. It was telling the audience "yeah, the glory days of the 80s are over, but you stuck with us for this long, so let's have fun one last time"
It's because Tom Cruise has a lot of creative control on the films he produces as
I am 100% convinced this movie is as good as it is because of Tom Cruise. I bet you money he ghost edited the entire script. There are elements of it where you can almost feel the subversive elements wanting to eek through. Like the initial bar scene, where Tom has no money, and is thrown out. It's entirely saved by the fact that Tom is ridiculously charismatic, and smiles all throughout it.
And also there's a very specific scene added later that shows, no. He has money. He's not a loser.
points out. He definitely made this as a loving tribute to his career and to the general theater experience. It had a very positive tone instead of telling the audience when to clap like every other shitty blockbuster
Well that and many people just want to get out and watch something. Know many people who did just that and what other movie competes with it? Jurrasic park? Pshhhhhh.
Because the job attracts a certain type of person. So yeah no shit a movie about being a fighter pilot is full of wienery c**ts, because all fighter pilots ARE wienery c**ts
There's simply no chance it won't make a billion. There's a Father's day weekend surge coming up and it's only just entering its fourth week. It's already outgrossed Doctor Strange domestically and it'll outgross it worldwide as well.
Do real pilots flinch forward like that when they go off the deck? Seems like a moment where you wouldn't want to take even a second off your instruments.
I liked the movie but the only guy that felt like a real character was the navigator for the Hispanic female pilot named bob. Everyone other young pilot was lame as shit.
Good movie but only cause Tom carried it.
Some cute cinema attendant who went to my school. Both times there was a relatively quiet cinema so he came and sat with us and we have aome super infrequent fwb thing and we did hand stuff then went to the toilets.
Didn't you conservatards cope yourself into believing Captain Marvel only did high numbers because all the tickets were bought off by Disney for months and months on end. It seems what you are describing is your own political group 1:1
Fighter Pilot fantasies are always kino. We need more centered around outer space. For example, a Human astronaut gets lost in space and is picked up by aliens and he goes on this quest to learn their language, frick some hottie alien after proving himself to be capable, blend into this alien culture and he is eventually driven to master dogfighting in space to be closer to his alien gf fighter pilot. They both train hard, fly harder and blow up some antagonistic alien scum in order to save his new home.
The only way to make dogfights better is to set them in space so you can do crazy shit like pic related >Hey, you know how in actual combat the aircraft carrier is kilometres away from the fighting? >yeah? >How about we force them into knife fight range and have them tear each other apart like giant metal bears armed with flak cannons?
I loved battlestar galactica.
It was pure cinema. Live action instead of CGI wherever possible, and the story was not some leftist slop where the main character is deconstructed and no fun is allowed.
Are you guys just manufacturing the supposed "leftist hate" this movie is apparently getting? Everyone I know liked this flick and I live in a deep blue town. There's a bunch of minorites (including not one but TWO cool black dude characters who are conveniently supportive to the MC) in the thing. I would think that'd be enough to satiate to liberal media and going by the reviews, it is.
It was Top Gun except less of a chick flick. The whole plot is building up towards a death-defying bombing run instead of just meandering around with a romance story and a bunch of half-naked dudes standing around talking before the surprise action is finally rolled out at the end. It gave it focus and made it way better for non-chicks/gays. This was apparent even from trailers and so of course it would be more successful than the original Top Gun.
what went right was that apparently no one noticed or cared that the entire plot of this movie was pretty much a 1:1 rip off of the attack run on the death star.
Yeah especially the bit where Luke has to deal with his dead best friends son and then gets shot down over the deathstar and steals a z-95 headhunter to escape back to vavin 4.
Not to mention that romance with his hot ex gf in that tattooine bar.
Don't forget the part where Maverick and everyone else flying up front were taken out on the way to the target, with shots of them screaming as fires engulfs them from behind, leaving only Rooster left to use the force to bomb the target.
I was thinking more about how in all the weeks of training not a single one of the pilots was able to complete the entire course successfuly in time. Hell only one pilot was able to complete the first part of the attack run on time in training.
Yet after watching maverick do it one time, all three pilots he chooses to fly the mission are suddenly able to do it.
Hangman was able to do it but he was selfish and just left with wingman
Rooster was hinted to be able to but he just was always nerfing himself to be safe.
he was able to do the first part of flying through the valley.
No one was ever able to successfully do the second part and bomb the target.
But without ever getting it right in practice runs they magically pull off every step on the actual mission
2 years ago
Anonymous
They had more than a week or 2 of training left after making the decision put Maverick as team leader and time skipped to the start of the mission. It was a good idea not to shown the probable successful training run on screen as it would ruin the pacing of the movie and tension in the final mission scenes.
Oh yeah, that part in Star Wars where they're all training to do the Death Star run with Han making them look like fools over and over was always so kino. Can't believe they ripped it off.
Lucas was a talented hungry director but he really lucked out working with absolute geniuses like mcquarrie and williams. WIthout them star wars would never have taken off.
I wouldn't call a bombing a nuclear enrichment plant from Iran as bombing people indiscriminately. Murica might do that shit a lot and play it as heroic acts in giving others freedom but Islamic nutjobs should never get their hands on nukes.
>not capeshit >no wokeness >not political >no sjw diversity bullshit >no awkward feminist propaganda injections >simply a bunch of dudes flying cool planes >can't lose with the cruise
The movie by itself is good but all in all it was also a really nice break from all the generic movies filled with woke.
Millennials are addicted to nostalgia. Like shooting fish in a barrel
>Millennials
>nostalgia for top gun
They don't have to feel the nostalgia to buy into it.
yeah, we have it
it was a huge hit for our parents and then a perennial blockbuster rental
Yeah my parents went to it on one of their first dates. They still talk about it
We all watched it as kids. Boomers loved it, too.
>HIIIIIIIIGH WAAAAAAAAAY TOOOOOOO THE
>DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGER ZOOOOOONE
Millennials rented Top Gun when they were kids. Everybody has seen it.
We watched it on VHS repeatedly until the tape broke. I bet you don’t even remember orange Nickelodeon tapes. Sad!
This generational gatekeeping is getting so fricking moronic. This is almost as dumb as the guy who said zoomers didn't grow up with kung fu Panda
pretty much every generation has nostalgia for top gun, that's why they made it. Anyway I'm off to join the Navy
well yes you moron
gen-y is probably the biggest sucker for 80s nostalgia even though they weren't teenagers in that era
that's why gen-z jumps on 90s and early 00s nostalgia trips because to them that's what was "cool back then"
You're a very stupid c**t.
i’m a zoomer who thinks the first one is shit and I loved this and saw it three times. last movie I did that with was avatar with my dad
Well you're apparently stupid
I graduated at oxford last year. The movie is really good.
Graduated from which college with what degree?
Mertonchads rise up
christchurch and law
You can bet it wasn't Dick Sucking Studies, as it was with you
What the hell? just because I don’t like macho military propaganda bullshit nostalgia. I majored in sociology.
>macho is…le bad
>sociology
Literally every single thing you typed implies you're a gay.
yes feel free to prove me wrong homosexual
>oxford
Ngmi
>you’re watching a movie that’s not about a trans woman molesting a little boy? you must be stupid
>no homosexual propaganda or forced diversity
>huh… must be nostalgia
This movie doesn't qualify as nostalgia bait. Rather than dangling shiny 'member berries they use flashbacks and exposition to provide everything required to make the movie a standalone story, informed by the events previous movie but not reliant on it.
it's literally just a copy of the first movie, but changed slightly
Not at all. Maverick is much more tense with how it spends the whole movie building toward the huge burst of action at the end. First one is a goofy 80s cheese fest, much more focused on romance and homoeroticism than plane action.
>Maverick is much more tense with how it spends the whole movie building toward the huge burst of action at the end.
well the old one was intense until the burst of action at the end too. Maverick is just able to do it better because of better SFX technology. Also they literally follow the same flow from the old movie....
>bar scene
>hangar meet the crew scene
>beach sportsball scene
>repeated scenes on bike to house of love interest
>office scene being reprimanded
>intense practice scene
>big action finale
literally the same fricking movie.
>nooo they have to meet each individual character heckin' organically
at least do the introduction of the instructor/expert meeting the team differently.
>crew at bar
>unbeknownst to them, get into it with the expert/instructor
>they meet the next day in the hangar...and surprise...
>HEY ISN'T IT THAT OLD GUY/HOT GIRL FROM THE BAR! OOPSIE!
they literally did the same shit you fanboy.
Except Cruise was a fly on the wall for the bar scene, and once they got started in the Hangar nobody recognized him from before
Hangman and Payback literally threw him onto the beach but they don't make a big deal about it like autismo here
They don't seem to recognize him later when he shows up as their instructor
they make eye contact and then give each other shocked looks, it's a throwaway scene but it acknowledges continuity
>but they don't make a big deal about it like autismo here
The "Oopsie" is played out in the mind of the viewer more than on the screen, just like in the original, but this time it had less impact because anyone that's seen the original knew what was coming from that setup.
it's like thirty frames dude
>Except Cruise was a fly on the wall for the bar scene
Everyone knew he was there, what are you talking about, at the bar the wienery guy kept calling him "old man" and they all threw him out on his ass. They taunted him a number of times to pay the tab for the entire bar.
It's the same kind of setup in the old movie where Cruise was trying to hit on the love interest in the bar not knowing she turned out to be their plane expert or whatever.
>sportsball
poofta detected
Same basic framework except this one isn’t total dogshit like the first, one of the most baffling blockbusters ever
this one is much better than the first one, mostly because they could do so much more with special effects to make the flying more intense.
The original has great style but a terrible script. There's zero tension and Tom's charisma carried the whole movie. This one is solid in every department.
But the new one isn't gay at all
No, the entire love story really brought down the entire movie.
i liked the movie but i laughed at the middle aged love scene in the theatre
>middle age
The "young" pilots are middle aged tom could eat off the senior menu at dennys
It was a necessary no-homosexual evil
>SFX technology
Dude, it has nothing to do with SFX. Go look at the size of the venice cameras they used for maverick compared to the camera used in the original. Original had better dialogue and supporting cast.
Every fricking sequel is like this.
The romance alone was much better in this one.
I just want to see some planes man
/thread. Cinemaphilecels really want to pretend they're so much better until the next corporation gives them member berries.
I'm a millenial and won't go to see it but my boomer dad has gone to see it twice now
>millenial
millennial*
here's your (you) just for being a first poster
try with dynamite next time
wrong generation idiot
HERR DERR PEOPLE BORN FROM THIS TIME TO THIS TIME ARE ALL BAD SO THAT MEANS IM GOOD
i suggest you buy a rope and a stool now BOOMER
I'm the right age be nostalgic for the old Top Gun but I saw it relatively late and thought it was kinda mediocre. This one, on the other hand, seeing real life jet fighters go woosh on a big screen is just too damn cool. You'd have to be some kind of a homosexual to not like this movie.
I've never watched the first movie and I still enjoed this. You are a gigantic homosexual.
Pentagon involvement.
>Pentagon involvement.
This. Thinly veiled recruitment propaganda for the capitalist forever-wars.
The first movie was the biggest enlistment the Navy had seen since WWII
Needle won't even budge for this one, military is too pozzed
good thing they're bringing tik tok influencers to rectify this.
>thinly
>capitalist forever-wars
>capitalism
>killing potential customers
Most moronic post on Cinemaphile right now
Ukrainian civilians don’t make up haliburtons customer base
>they hated him because he told them the truth
It's always "It's not politics when it agrees with my view" for these morons.
>the truth
>capitalism causes WARS
please go back to leftypol
>capitalism is when the government does stuff
I want socialists to die.
yessss there is NO military industrial complex deliberately starting wars to justify stealing taxes of us citizens .
Eisenhower is rolling in his grave.
this they wanted this movie to succeed, thus the shilling for it
>pinkos absolutely litter media and modern cinema with leftist propaganda for years
>inhumane social engineering to fit their twisted agendas at all costs, shielding demented child abuse behind a false curtain of progress
>enter tom cruise
>a movie about planes and the navy has to get military signoff in order to use said planes, like every single war movie in history before it
>leftoids are in in an implosion of panic, they hurry to decry this passion project as " propaganda " or " manufactured" hype
the irony is devastatingly palpable. i now love tom cruise and will watch this schlockfest
You wont regret it.
The last 30 minutes are literally an ace combat movie.
Except I still think it's propaganda, especially for the agenda, and I agree with you about the leftism. This and all the gay push in movies, all the same side.
Top Gun is about the Navy, there are no gays in the navy
>in the navy
You can sail the seven sea's
The seven sea's what?
Never mind, it's obviously before your time.
Having the grammar skills of a moron certainly is a boomer thing.
Yes a lot of grammar in one sentence you frickwit.
Since dumb zoomies won’t continue... ahem
IN THE NAVY
YOU CAN PICTURE MY KNEES
>USAF
dumb Black person
Same shit. All the branches are gay anyway.
the plebs are thirsty of propaganda
the pentagon infiltrates movie studios and shits out all these 'MURRICA STRONK material, and the paesants slurp the cum right out their dicks
basically this
>makes sequel that doesn't shit on the original
>script is written in good faith, not trying to make topical political undertones or "subvert the audience"
>autistic obsession with practical effects and committed to having big-screen release rather than streaming
Mapother may be a Xenu-worshipper but he truly loves making movies
Good post
Bait
I personally think dude is a Napoleon-complex closeted gay cult member, but that intro was kinda cool (showing love for his fans and the industry).
On a side note, he looks like he had another intensive round of plastic surgery.
>not trying to make topical political undertones
The enemy nation in the movie is blatantly Iran, though the choice to scrub the name was something.
>The enemy nation in the movie is blatantly Iran, though the choice to scrub the name was something.
I read they chose to scrub the name in order to have the movie NOT become outdated like with Top Gun 1 and the Soviet Union. But Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore and a new generation of kids have no idea what the cold war was like.
they never mention the Soviets in TG1, they're generic "MiG 28's" and implied to be Libyan
>they never mention the Soviets
Yes. They mention the Russians in a throw away line.
They didn’t want to point fingers at anyone I think for the international box office
Somehow I don't think they are airing this movie in Iran
I think they didn’t want to point fingers at Russians for supplying the Su-57’s
That's the implication probably yeah but they made the effort to exclude it. The enemy's "5th gen fighters" looked like F35s however.
They are SU-57s, a Russian 5th Gen fighter intended for export
yeah you're right. I could've sworn they looked like F35s in the theater though.
it's funny because IRL Russia only has like 7 of them for show and with the ukraine fiasco it'll probably never get past that
>the Ukraine fiasco
>fiasco
Right
literally Su57's
No one cares about Iran, it's not the 2000s anymore. If it's not a politically contentious issue at the time of the films release it doesn't count.
>No one cares about Iran
Imagine being this blatantely moronic because Fox didn't tell you to care about it. It's been an ongoing issue since the 2000s for America too since people still flee from the war and weapons do still get sold.
>It's not political when it aligns with my own beliefs, it's just good and normal and neutral
>"Maverick, surprised to see you here after you Stormed the Capitol on January 6, glad to see you again!"
>"Well, even if Dementia Joe is the commander in chief, at least I get to fly some cool planes"
totally broke my immersion
Underrated
Yes. Now go suck a dick, homosexual.
Yes, troony, there is normality, and there is insanity.
There were no politics in this movie.
The enemy nation is unnamed, there is no mention of current events beyond a fictional nuclear plant. There is no discussion of any isms or ists. The female characters don't go full Sam Carter and the minorities don't start spouting off about saint floyd. The legacy characters are allowed to shine while faced with realistic consequences for their personality and actions and the themes are focused on universal struggles such as a parent letting their child take their first steps out of the nest and repairing old, broken relationships.
There's no politics here.
To leftists any semi-positive portrayal of military is a policitcal statement.
If there was a subplot about how corrupt the navy is and how all the white men are evil racists that just joined the military to kill brown people it would be hailed by the same people crying about propaganda.
lmao thats why the us navy helped fund their movie and gave them a discount on airtime of their jets; it was completely done out of goodwill, and they totally did not have recruiters stationed outside theatres after this movie.
Anon I hate to tell you this...but thats how every movie with a military presence usually goes. Thats how its been since Hollywood started asking the US military for advisors to help them.
Not only that, did you know that federal agencies have a say in every movie they are so much as mentioned in? To the point they force script changes to make themselves look better?
Yes, that's called political
I hope many of the people they conscripted eventually get to fly a cool plane 🙂
There is a subplot about the flaw of the navy. The navy top brass was about to send the team to an extremely dangerous mission with half ass prep and milelquetoast plan. Both Iceman and Maverick had to step in to make the mission successful and the pilots returning home safely.
I was fully expecting a scene where it's revealed john hamm was working for the enemy all along and was trying to sabotage the mission on purpose.
I never had that feeling
John Hamm antagonistic action to Maverick never felt malignant and dubious. He took action fitting to the dogmatic bureaucracy. He took action to try to squeeze the pieces he has into the hole the best he can and get the mission going as he didn't have the option to simply call it off. Maverick went further and forcefully mold the pieces beyond their current limit to ensure they fit into the holes.
It's when he lowers the time requirements meaning all the pilots would come under fire from the su57s.
That goes beyond pure incompetence and into oh shit homie what are you doing territory.
To be fair before that they were killing themselves early by flying into walls or showing themselves on radar, which would have resulted in being swarmed before they even reached the target. To him they had a better chance of surviving if they went slow because it seemed like nobody could fly through those canyons fast enough without crashing.
But there was still time to train.
And once maverick shows them it can be done the others can do it, too.
And cyclone was deadset against even letting maverick show them it could be done.
Both plans have awful survival chances but the fast way at least has slightly better odds of destroying the target.
>but the fast way at least has slightly better odds of destroying the target.
What? It was the opposite. Going fast made them go above the radar threshold several times, or crashing, meaning the enemy was alerted to their presence or they lost the bomb needed to pull off the mission.
Going slow = almost 100% chance that the bombing goes off smoothly because there's no interception or lost bombs so it's a "mission success", but since the enemy has had time to get their jets into the air after the airfield got bombed they'll get fricked up trying to fly back to the ship.
Going fast = big chance that they'll smack into a canyon wall or breach radar, tipping the enemy off early about which direction they're coming from, if they don't get taken out by the rockets, but if they pull it off they'll have time to go home without having to dogfight fifth gen fighters all the way to the ship.
Jon Hamm thought it better to take the path that ensures the target was destroyed since he was sending them to their death/capture either way. But he changed his mind when Maverick showed them all that it could be done and so there was a way for them all to return home.
>Going fast made them go above the radar threshold several times, or crashing,
Well when they started training.
Obviously by end of training at least the people tom picks are able to do it without going above the ceiling limitations etc.
>Going slow = almost 100% chance that the bombing goes off smoothly because there's no interception
But there would be interception by the su57s.
That's why everyone except john hamm wants to do it the other way.
Not to mention if they were really slow theyd probably even come under SAM fire just trying to fly up the mountain side to get to the target not "just" after when the reach coffin ally or whatever they called it.
Like I understand that they wanted to have some conflict about how to do the mission and why I just dont think it comes across as believable especially considering it's a movie about doing an "impossible" mission.
>But there would be interception by the su57s.
Not BEFORE the bombing. The time limit was to give them enough time to fly back to base before the su57s could get in the air to shoot them down. The bombing itself would still have happened before those could get airborne and find the planes because up until the bombing happens nobody would know if there even are any planes coming or from what direction, just like the unplanned bogeys didn't immediately swoop down to bomb them in the canyon.
Everyone was against Hamm's plan because it meant that the squad would 100% have to dogfight their way back home after showing themselves by bombing the facility. The bombing mission would be successful but they'd all be shot down. As opposed to going fast where the bombing mission looked like it'd fail AND people would die.
Oh right that makes sense. Su57s wouldnt be able to see them in the canyon anyway.
It's easier to say the mission failed due to the pilots getting overwhelmed by enemy's fifth gen aircraft rather than being pushed to fly too fast and crashed into mountain. It was a passive way to plan the mission, basically hoping that the enemy wouldn't respond in time or fail to take down the jet. It basically bet on the enemy underperforming and fricking up rather than the top gun pilot somehow overperform. There was a chance that they manage to bomb the bunker before being taken out by the enemy jets. Therefore, simply making it to the target without crashing and destroying the target is the preferrable result than crashing into the mountain. They thought that the valley run combined with the dive bombing wasn't feasible until Maverick did it himself.
It's Iran
>"they are enriching uranium not in accordance to the unilateral denuclearization agreement"
There is only one country that does that
Iran
Yes its obviously Iran but they never SAY Iran.
Everything is political to the leftist
Even normal day to day practicalities become avatars of inbuilt structures of power created by le evil white men
For the leftist, the entire world and society is a construct based on political power dynamics. What you and i would consider "Normality" to the leftist is just the exertion of our norms onto the structure of reality through our inbuilt historical power
This is why they attack everything all the time. If something isn't actively deconstructing and destroying what has come before, it is considered complicit with the power structures of the past.
Even things like logic and rationality have been argued by the left to be inherently political European social constructs based on patriarchal dynamics.
The leftist is nothing if not all consumed by its ideology.
>Everything is political
It must've been tiring thinking that way constantly i reckon.
lmao imagine if china or russia made a similar movie with help from their militaries, where they're the "good guys" that bomb another country, you'd be screaming propaganda for days. But since it's your country you dont see it. It's plain O' propaganda, that's why the US navy sunk in so much money and effort in helping, and that's why they have recruiters outside theatres. It's still a good frickin movie, but lets not deny the whole thing isnt just "Murica!"
....China has done this moron.
They're doing it right now.
One of the most popular chinese movie franchises outright names the US as the bad guy, and has chinese naval seals fighting them.
The American military characters were running slaves IIRC
yes, and it's political moron, whether China does it or the US does it, thats my point.
>imagine if china or russia made a similar movie with help from their militaries, where they're the "good guys" that bomb another country
We dont have to imagine because they do that all the time.
But it's ok when they do it.
Just like it's ok when china genocides the uyghurs.
But man that george floyd thing grrrrrrr fricking racist chuds.
In the movie they violate a treaty that they signed. What, should we just write them a mean letter, homosexual. God I fricking hate that a movie as fun as this is ruined by you nutters
and that is POLITICAL, fricking dumbass
>not trying to make topical political undertones
Are you moronic
What exactly in the movie is topical, politics wise?
name one scene lmao
>makes sequel that doesn't shit on the original
The really got it down on how much to poke fun of Cruise being the old one now.
>script is written in good faith
It's sick that you have to explicitly state this in 2022. Because so many flicks are written in a dishonest, snarky, cynical and ironic manner.
Finally a movie for White people.
Fast and Furious for Black folk.
Funny that FF has been propped up by the China box office, while China bans white excellence and forces the public to rewatch Korean war fanfics
Because America would totally give Chinese military propaganda like the Wolf Warrior movies a wide release.
We need more Cruise Control in our lives
That last movie he did where he repeated the same day over and over again did well and it's a surprise it took him this long to make another movie
we're crusie starved and now we can't get enough
WE MUST CRUISE FEAST
>Forgets Mission Kino: Fallout and Rogue Nation
>Forgets American Made
>What went right?
A white people movie with a good budget and an easy to follow plot.
It was a breath of fresh air compared to corporate woke propaganda. Yes, it's military-industrial complex propaganda instead but a change is as good as a rest. Tom is based too.
Overton window has really shifted if people don't see it did have political pandering.
Wasn't the worst but it was still there.
Fighter jets are cool.
Why am I so out of touch with reality is it because I used to drink LSD out of a sweet breath bottle like it was Juicy Juice
I had no interest in this at all
Apparently the Directors cut has him dicking Connelly for 13 minutes straight
isn't Cruise a turbo gay?
Cruise will sue you into oblivion if you imply as much
Yeah for Xeno
He's turbo autist but for real.
I am 100% convinced this movie is as good as it is because of Tom Cruise. I bet you money he ghost edited the entire script. There are elements of it where you can almost feel the subversive elements wanting to eek through. Like the initial bar scene, where Tom has no money, and is thrown out. It's entirely saved by the fact that Tom is ridiculously charismatic, and smiles all throughout it.
And also there's a very specific scene added later that shows, no. He has money. He's not a loser.
All of the characters behaved in a refreshingly different way to the usual woke clichés. When Hangman wasn't picked for the mission, I thought he'd screech and seethe for 20 minutes about how diversity was killing the navy. But he just sucked it up and saved the day anyway.
>Oh I'm good. I'm very good.
So good.
Based.
His ex/gf was just fricking with him because she wanted to torture him over how things ended between them. I doubt his card was actually declined.
you could tell someone wanted to make the girl the typical bad sss stronk womynz character and it got edited down
i also thought this while watching it
cruise is also listed as a producer
Tom is the last genuine 'movie star' left.
They set out to make a entertaining movie, full stop. That and Cruise always gives it 100% AND knows cgi is meant to be a supplement not a bedrock.
I read that during the press tour for oblivion: the last guy that can make you go watch something.
it was a great movie. almost no bs. Even I after years of not going to theathers went to see it
The only BS I note is that Trace and BOB would have been grounded after their crash, modern ejection seats launch out so hard and fast that they cause extreme spinal damage. You'll never be safe pulling Gs again, so they just don't let you fly anymore.
That's incorrect. Whilst ejections can cause injuries like that, it's not a guarantee. Plenty of pilots have ejected and continued on with their careers.
that movie is literally a 7/10 and no more.
Just saw it, completely agree. But by Hollywood standards, that’s masterful.
It was an exciting action movie grounded in reality involving fighter jets which are the most badass human inventions and not capeshit.
EVERYTHING WENT RIGHT!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
The IMAX is sick bro.
How the frick did they fit imax cameras in the wienerpits?
They are digital cameras formatted for IMAX. Not film SOVL imax cameras
We all secretly love white chad wieners.
Plane goes brrrrrrrrr
Movie didn't preach to the audience
Movie was a character story about Maverick growing old instead of a shameless Top Gun: 2 cash-in
Tom Cruise is the fricking man
cruisechads...
we WON.
>plays nice with navy to make a propaganda film
>sends staff to assault the capitol
what did paramount global mean by this?
You think senile joe and the commiecrats would fund a movie like this?
>What went right?
Studio interns be like
>What are some of the key takeaways for this film's success that I can present to my boss in the Q3 social media presentation?
Studio heads aren't going to be happy if he tells the truth
>make a movie that doesn't talk down to its audience
>people gobble it up
>Hmm Let's Continue To Do This
I see no downside
>>make a movie that doesn't talk down to its audience
gobble it up
>>Hmm Let's Continue To Do This
They'll spin it as "problematic indoctrination by US Military" or something
"Conservative brainwashing funded by scientologists"
>Conservative brainwashing funded by scientologists
Well, probably that's true.
Biggest problem with this movie was the editing. So many quick cuts and fade effects instead of allowing moments to build up properly and linger
They don't do that anymore in modern movies. Audiences don't have the patience.
Just make good movies.
>we have picked the best fighter pilots in the entire navy
>includes women
>Woman pilot is the only character in the movie to crash a plane
What did they mean by this?
Realistically, she would have been grounded and discharged for crashing after failing to resolve a simple engine fire. The f-18 was designed with the engines close together specifically so that it wouldn't lose control when one engine failed. Her role on the mission would have taken by Hangman.
Buuuut it's not like Maverick was one to judge when he has crashed 2 planes because of pilot error.
>>we have picked the best fighter pilots in the entire navy
women
And a black
there was a Black guy in the original Top Gun too, Sundown, so that's nothing new.
>We could've em
>HEY, WE COULD'VE HAD EM, MAN.
Because most modern action blockbusters try to use grandiose spectacle to sell the thrill of action when it is a cheap imitation for developing real investment in character and story. Despite being fairly grounded in comparison, this movie is way more thrilling than any superhero movie where some galactic evil guy no. 245 threatens to destroy the world for the 245th time with movie actors that don't know how to fight which is covered by excessive cgi explosions.
Same reason why early Fast and Furious movies where they were grounded felt more enjoyable than the new movies where they only care about spectacle and are saving the world and going to space or whatever.
I think I'm going to go see it next week
Was surprised at how sincere this movie felt even though it's a highly anticipated franchise sequel. There's not much cynicism at all. It was telling the audience "yeah, the glory days of the 80s are over, but you stuck with us for this long, so let's have fun one last time"
It's because Tom Cruise has a lot of creative control on the films he produces as
points out. He definitely made this as a loving tribute to his career and to the general theater experience. It had a very positive tone instead of telling the audience when to clap like every other shitty blockbuster
capeshit fatigue and the war in Ukraine
Old movie had a better soundtrack
Well that and many people just want to get out and watch something. Know many people who did just that and what other movie competes with it? Jurrasic park? Pshhhhhh.
It beat out the typical Marvel stuff, too.
why does everyone in this movie have the same cool smug wienery personality
They're fighter pilots
the only unique one was the awkward guy with the 80s glasses
he was just a copy of Goose.
Because the job attracts a certain type of person. So yeah no shit a movie about being a fighter pilot is full of wienery c**ts, because all fighter pilots ARE wienery c**ts
LETS GET TOM TO $1 BILLION BABY!
There's simply no chance it won't make a billion. There's a Father's day weekend surge coming up and it's only just entering its fourth week. It's already outgrossed Doctor Strange domestically and it'll outgross it worldwide as well.
CAN'T BRUISE THE CRUISE
fricking based
Maverickbros... we weren't wienery enough
Reminder it's going to pass 1 billion in 2 weeks
K I N O
the webm that saved Cinemaphile
Do real pilots flinch forward like that when they go off the deck? Seems like a moment where you wouldn't want to take even a second off your instruments.
I liked the movie but the only guy that felt like a real character was the navigator for the Hispanic female pilot named bob. Everyone other young pilot was lame as shit.
Good movie but only cause Tom carried it.
This movie and edge of tomorrow have both gotten me laid. Tom can destroy Thetans with but a single smile.
more info?
Some cute cinema attendant who went to my school. Both times there was a relatively quiet cinema so he came and sat with us and we have aome super infrequent fwb thing and we did hand stuff then went to the toilets.
>gay
Of course
>he
>gay
>needing a movie to get laid
third viewing today, fourth tomorrow
support the Cruise, bros!
>1 billion incoming
>without China
CAN'T BRUISE THE CRUISE
Hollywood is dropping the insectoid audience after the last spooderman success, now even more with this
Not like they have a choice, CCP doesn't seem to be interested in letting western movies in anymore
Can't blame them, California's subversion has to be stopped
They were only interested in capeshit and Fast & Furious
Gaga making the score with Zimmers
You think hollywood would get most people want a good movie where whites aren't shit on, but no we will go back to the woke mind virus soon enough.
Jesus. We will never escape nostalgia bait
He gets 10% of first dollar gross. So apparently that’s like $40m
dont forget that dollar goes down therefore tickets go up in price
>do stunts in jet fighters
>make less money than Indian CGI
People are going for one reason: Bob.
I gotta be honest his dick was WAY bigger than I was expecting
Why does this movie make leftards/libshits seethe so much?
They’re perpetually offended by success. Unless you’re a democrat politician with a congressional pension then they worship the ground you walk on
Didn't you conservatards cope yourself into believing Captain Marvel only did high numbers because all the tickets were bought off by Disney for months and months on end. It seems what you are describing is your own political group 1:1
I will not be watching "Top Gun: Maverick (2022)".
Cool it with the anti-scientology rhetoric
Nobody gives a shit if you do or don't. Nothing about you matters.
but i'm not going to watch it.
You cared enough to get angry 🙂
Wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for umamusume.
sugoi!
tomu cruise da! kakkoi!!
Man how the frick does Tom do it?
>blatant military-industrial complex propaganda is popular with mutts
Gee, what a surprise
>it's the israelites fault I'm gay
the absolute state of incels
Fighter Pilot fantasies are always kino. We need more centered around outer space. For example, a Human astronaut gets lost in space and is picked up by aliens and he goes on this quest to learn their language, frick some hottie alien after proving himself to be capable, blend into this alien culture and he is eventually driven to master dogfighting in space to be closer to his alien gf fighter pilot. They both train hard, fly harder and blow up some antagonistic alien scum in order to save his new home.
I'm pretty sure there is an anime like that from 70-80's era.
Watch Ad Astra.
Sounds like the Last Starfighter but with an astronaut instead of a dork who plays videogames in an arcade all day long
The only way to make dogfights better is to set them in space so you can do crazy shit like pic related
>Hey, you know how in actual combat the aircraft carrier is kilometres away from the fighting?
>yeah?
>How about we force them into knife fight range and have them tear each other apart like giant metal bears armed with flak cannons?
I loved battlestar galactica.
It was pure cinema. Live action instead of CGI wherever possible, and the story was not some leftist slop where the main character is deconstructed and no fun is allowed.
They didn't go woke.
not going woke
It's Boomer kino.
White male lead
More like:
>Actual Movie Star lead
Put any other guy in Tom's role and it wouldn't have made half as much.
did they use cgi on tom in the beach scene?
there is no way a 60 year old looks that in shape
wtf is his secret to youth bros
Scientology.
ok, so where do i sign up
>has to CGI Natalie Portperson's biceps in Thor 4 because b***h doesn't work out
>meanwhile, 60yo Cruise still looks super fit
It's a good movie that delivers, simple as that. Basically everything that what Disney isn't
Mission Impossible is going to beat it.
>this much fear over a movie being good
huh, a bit odd innit...
Are you guys just manufacturing the supposed "leftist hate" this movie is apparently getting? Everyone I know liked this flick and I live in a deep blue town. There's a bunch of minorites (including not one but TWO cool black dude characters who are conveniently supportive to the MC) in the thing. I would think that'd be enough to satiate to liberal media and going by the reviews, it is.
WW3
It was Top Gun except less of a chick flick. The whole plot is building up towards a death-defying bombing run instead of just meandering around with a romance story and a bunch of half-naked dudes standing around talking before the surprise action is finally rolled out at the end. It gave it focus and made it way better for non-chicks/gays. This was apparent even from trailers and so of course it would be more successful than the original Top Gun.
what went right was that apparently no one noticed or cared that the entire plot of this movie was pretty much a 1:1 rip off of the attack run on the death star.
please for the love of god watch literally any other movie series manchild
It's like two missions from ace combat 7 fused together
Yeah especially the bit where Luke has to deal with his dead best friends son and then gets shot down over the deathstar and steals a z-95 headhunter to escape back to vavin 4.
Not to mention that romance with his hot ex gf in that tattooine bar.
Don't forget the part where Maverick and everyone else flying up front were taken out on the way to the target, with shots of them screaming as fires engulfs them from behind, leaving only Rooster left to use the force to bomb the target.
I was thinking more about how in all the weeks of training not a single one of the pilots was able to complete the entire course successfuly in time. Hell only one pilot was able to complete the first part of the attack run on time in training.
Yet after watching maverick do it one time, all three pilots he chooses to fly the mission are suddenly able to do it.
Hangman was able to do it but he was selfish and just left with wingman
Rooster was hinted to be able to but he just was always nerfing himself to be safe.
he was able to do the first part of flying through the valley.
No one was ever able to successfully do the second part and bomb the target.
But without ever getting it right in practice runs they magically pull off every step on the actual mission
They had more than a week or 2 of training left after making the decision put Maverick as team leader and time skipped to the start of the mission. It was a good idea not to shown the probable successful training run on screen as it would ruin the pacing of the movie and tension in the final mission scenes.
Oh yeah, that part in Star Wars where they're all training to do the Death Star run with Han making them look like fools over and over was always so kino. Can't believe they ripped it off.
Reminder George Lucas never had a single original idea.
Lucas was a talented hungry director but he really lucked out working with absolute geniuses like mcquarrie and williams. WIthout them star wars would never have taken off.
Sup bros, you thought about joining the navy?
Couple of links for ya bros.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/joining
https://www.navy.com/joining-the-navy
https://www.usa.gov/join-military
Stay Strong Bros.
It'll never top this.
War is in the air, so patriotic movies sell
woah dude wait a second. is this a movie about a movie star bombing people indiscriminately? WOW
I wouldn't call a bombing a nuclear enrichment plant from Iran as bombing people indiscriminately. Murica might do that shit a lot and play it as heroic acts in giving others freedom but Islamic nutjobs should never get their hands on nukes.
Sup bros, you thought about joining the navy?
Couple of links for ya bros.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/joining
https://www.navy.com/joining-the-navy
https://www.usa.gov/join-military
Stay on my Six Maverick 😉
remember when your movie was a success?
it was all my doing in buying a ticket Tom
ENTERTAINMENT over identity politics.
White manbros... we won
Fricking amazing.
So did the actirs genuinely drive the aircrafts in this movie, or was it all cgi?
Su-57s are obviously all effects, can't say for the F-18s.
>did the actirs genuinely drive the aircraft
they were put in the wienerpits with the pilots, who were flying them
the reactions you see are real
>What went right?
People found out that Maverick was more based than imagined
Strickland was sorely missing.
They tried to turn ed harris into him but it didnt work.
>not capeshit
>no wokeness
>not political
>no sjw diversity bullshit
>no awkward feminist propaganda injections
>simply a bunch of dudes flying cool planes
>can't lose with the cruise
The movie by itself is good but all in all it was also a really nice break from all the generic movies filled with woke.